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Old 02-04-2016, 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by amcnd View Post
Call recap.. My take.

For those woried about the crj700's leaving. they just anounced on the conferance call that they have secured all 20 coming off United 2016 contract..all have beed spoken for.. Looks like SkyWest grows big with 175's (34~in 2016) and moves 700's to other partners.. and a few 200's going away...and XJT losses a few airplanes (20 E145's but has the option to extend) but no growth..and its all based on pilot availability.. Xjt still losses money in 2016. But not as much as 2014/15.. Not involved in AS 175's there buying for QX...

Thats my take..
Did They announce where the other 20 will be going on top of the 8 for DL and 7 for AA? I'm guessing UA didn't extend any of the 700s that came off contract then?
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Old 02-04-2016, 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by TogaParty View Post
Did They announce where the other 20 will be going on top of the 8 for DL and 7 for AA? I'm guessing UA didn't extend any of the 700s that came off contract then?
No. But i heard from MX that the QX tail birds will still be Round for awhile..
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Old 02-04-2016, 06:59 PM
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For those concerned with such things, most junior upgrade awarded today was a Feb 2012 hire.
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Old 02-04-2016, 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by FaceBiter View Post
Might want to let Mike T. Know about this.

Reference- looking ahead to 2016. 34 175's for three different partners, delivered this year.
That's not what is says in the numbers. It's right there in black and white.

That is the problem here, everyone believes what he says.
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Old 02-04-2016, 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Blackwing View Post
For those concerned with such things, most junior upgrade awarded today was a Feb 2012 hire.
For a class date at the end of March. In the summer the upgrades were down to about 3 years 8 months at one point. Now they've been holding steady over 4 years for a while. All of the new hires I've talked to has said the recruiters keep telling them to expect 2 year upgrades... Where are those when the upgrade time has been slowly RISING?
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Old 02-04-2016, 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Blackwing View Post
For those concerned with such things, most junior upgrade awarded today was a Feb 2012 hire.
That 4 year mark is a tough cookie to crack...
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Old 02-04-2016, 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by rcfd13 View Post
For a class date at the end of March. In the summer the upgrades were down to about 3 years 8 months at one point. Now they've been holding steady over 4 years for a while. All of the new hires I've talked to has said the recruiters keep telling them to expect 2 year upgrades... Where are those when the upgrade time has been slowly RISING?
It seems a lot of senior FO's are getting awarded CA spots in their relatively senior domiciles or are just biting the bullet and going to ORD/MSP.
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Old 02-04-2016, 08:08 PM
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Classes were big 60-70 ppl a month for most of 2011 and into mid 2012 , that coupled with the awards are for typically senior bases den/lax/phx/sea has meant people that by passed before are taking the plunge especially once they notice a increase in upgrade time they fear they held out too long
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Old 02-04-2016, 08:23 PM
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Wasn't there a 6-8 month gap in hiring in 2012/2013? Seems like when we hit that upgrade times might drop closer to 3 but thats probably the lowest it'll get.
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Old 02-04-2016, 09:10 PM
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I had a recruiter talk to me recently and he said in the past the upgrade times were hovering around 4 years, but it has been dropping fast and to expect 1 1/2- 2 years. Ill believe it when i see it...
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