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Old 04-24-2015, 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by FaceBiter View Post
So you've been around long enough to realize this means nothing in a senority based system?
Not exactly my point. I understand the system. I have been around long enough not to commute. I am willing to forgo the Skywest if I can't get SFO pretty much out of the box or by the end of training. Like it was said in The movie "Chinatown" "Relax, Jake, it's just Chinatown" - edit "a regional" for Chinatown.

What does
FO in SFO 11/20/2014 5 months, mean? That's the last hire awarded SFO? Nothing since?
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Old 04-24-2015, 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by chazbird View Post

What does
FO in SFO 11/20/2014 5 months, mean? That's the last hire awarded SFO? Nothing since?
I guess so, I think the info is dated by about a month.
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Old 04-24-2015, 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by FaceBiter View Post
*protip gramps*

Honestly, at this point, if you plan on trying to pull this off it might be wise to just edit your posts and keep your yhap shut. From the background you just described its not that hard to ID you.

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So who am I? Why don't you "out me", whoever I am? Obviously I am a danger to the profession and these boards. Certainly others deserve to know.
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Old 04-24-2015, 09:38 PM
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Most junior FO in PHX was hired on 4/28/2014.
SLC 8/23/2013
SFO 1/8/2015
Those other numbers are off by about 7 or 8 spots.
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Old 04-25-2015, 05:37 AM
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Originally Posted by duckhntr View Post
I'm thinking of applying and live in SLC. Based off numbers today It would take at least a year possibly two years to make it back to SLC?
SLC has ZERO reserve FO lines next month. And most of the senior FO's in there are now upgrading. If SLC is your goal then go for it. Doubt it would take a year.. Maybe 6 months.. 3 of that in training.. So 3 months commuting..
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Old 04-25-2015, 08:18 AM
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Since Skywest doesn't actually fly it's own code, that $582 million in profits should be a sign that you guys could do a lot better with a contract.
SkyWest does lots of at-risk flying on CRJ2s.
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Old 04-25-2015, 12:23 PM
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If Skywest were to unionize I've no doubt the pilot contract negotiated would be an industry leading contract. We would be the best compensated regional in the industry and then be undercut by our regional brothers on every RFP that came out. So, while the bragging rights of having a great contract, which you currently have, would be a nice talking point, having flying awarded to the company you're working for is the ultimate goal. We are still getting flying awarded and ideally the best way to continue have that happen is by providing an excellent product at or slightly above the median price point. Currently, that is what Skywest Airlines does. Yes we have issues with our pilot contract. Yes the negotiating process is frustrating and slow. But for the most part the conditions here are good and at this point in time I think the THREAT of a union outweighs the benefits of a union. That WILL change just not sure when.
So no-union in order to protect from low-ballers thus giving you the ability to play the ultimate low-ball card by not being a labor threat. Got it!

That's up there with some of the garbage spewed by CAL '83-'85 hires.

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SkyWest does lots of at-risk flying on CRJ2s.
Define "lots", and is it using the OO code? Because if it's any other airline code then it's more risk to that airline, not Skywest. Either way, a majority of your operation is UAX, DL connection, and AA Eagle. Though Skywest bares some of the costs depending on the CPA, most things are paid for by airline you contract with.
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Originally Posted by NVUS View Post
SkyWest does lots of at-risk flying on CRJ2s.
Per the most recent shareholder call the at-risk flying will be phased out.
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Originally Posted by 24/48 View Post
So no-union in order to protect from low-ballers thus giving you the ability to play the ultimate low-ball card by not being a labor threat. Got it!

That's up there with some of the garbage spewed by CAL '83-'85 hires.



Define "lots", and is it using the OO code? Because if it's any other airline code then it's [COLOR="Red"]more risk[/COLOR] to that airline, not Skywest. Either way, a majority of your operation is UAX, DL connection, and AA Eagle. Though Skywest bares some of the costs depending on the CPA, most things are paid for by airline you contract with.
Back your statement up with facts. How many regionals does Skywest undercut in cost?

How many regionals who are unionized are cheaper? Here some facts for you since you seem unable to come up with any:

Crew cost as percentage of hourly (non-fuel) operating cost that companies that have reported.
ERJ140/145
Republic - 23.2%
ExpressJet - 43.5%
Eage - 44.1%

CRJ200
PSA - 22.5%
Mesa - 26.1%
AirWis - 27.3%
Skywest - 28.7%
Pinnacle - 33.8%
ExpressJet - 35.1%

CRJ700
PSA - 22.2%
GoJet - 24.9%
Mesa - 27.5%
Skywest - 27.8%
ExpressJet - 36.9%
Eagle - 44.0%

E170
Republic - 24.2%
Compass - 42.2%

CRJ900
Mesa - 29.5%
Skywest - 33.2%
ExpressJet - 35.7%
Pinnacle - 38.6%


Again, you're equating guys crossing a picket line with Skywest pilots. That's an ignorant comparison.

Why do labor groups unionize?

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Old 04-25-2015, 01:21 PM
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Per the most recent shareholder call the at-risk flying will be phased out.
I thought at-risk has the largest profit margins?
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