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04-07-2015 | 01:51 PM
#9921
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From: EMB 145 CPT
Yeah be careful leaving a long paper trail leading up to a sick call...vacation fail, golden day fail, bid fail, attempt drop fail, post fail, then ask CP for the day off. If you call in sick after all of that somebody might notice. I suspect they're getting to the point where there will be pushback (later this year!). The company is seriously considering requiring a Doc's note from pilots...apparently this is due to a few folks going way over-the-top with sick calls, not the majority who very occasionally do what they gotta do.
Another option...FMLA. You need to take at least four consecutive days (could include scheduled days off), need a doctor to sign the form, but it completely blocks any and all pushback or repercussions. I think they cannot even count against your reliability score, per federal law "it never happened". You can do it as many times as you need, in 4-day increments, until you use up all your FMLA for the year. I'm 99% sure you can do the paperwork after the fact too.
But if it's a day off you know in advance you're going to need, golden days have always worked for me and we get five now.
As long as we're on this subject....word to the noobs, don't use travel bennies including JS, while out sick. Some airlines turn them off, although SKW does not. Problem is if somebody ever decided to care (they haven't yet but might soon), you left a paper trail indicating you weren't that sick after all. If you have to travel, buy a ticket on a non-affiliated airline.
Another option...FMLA. You need to take at least four consecutive days (could include scheduled days off), need a doctor to sign the form, but it completely blocks any and all pushback or repercussions. I think they cannot even count against your reliability score, per federal law "it never happened". You can do it as many times as you need, in 4-day increments, until you use up all your FMLA for the year. I'm 99% sure you can do the paperwork after the fact too.
But if it's a day off you know in advance you're going to need, golden days have always worked for me and we get five now.
As long as we're on this subject....word to the noobs, don't use travel bennies including JS, while out sick. Some airlines turn them off, although SKW does not. Problem is if somebody ever decided to care (they haven't yet but might soon), you left a paper trail indicating you weren't that sick after all. If you have to travel, buy a ticket on a non-affiliated airline.
Personally, I hate it that they even ask for notes as if we are grade school kids. I know I never go to the doctor for the flu. The last thing I want to do when I have the flu is get out of bed and wait at the doctor's office just for him to tell me I have the flu and to rest and drink lots of fluids. We have sick time. If people use it for other things, then it's on them when they really do get sick have no sick time left to be paid when they have to stay home.
04-10-2015 | 07:47 AM
#9922
Gets Weekends Off
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From: Seat 0B
Interesting bid package for PHX. Going to be busy in the month of May.
04-10-2015 | 08:38 AM
#9924
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From: Prime Leader of Boko Harumph
Personally, I hate it that they even ask for notes as if we are grade school kids. I know I never go to the doctor for the flu. The last thing I want to do when I have the flu is get out of bed and wait at the doctor's office just for him to tell me I have the flu and to rest and drink lots of fluids. We have sick time. If people use it for other things, then it's on them when they really do get sick have no sick time left to be paid when they have to stay home.
The "note" requirement is in violation of Dr-patient confidence, the only way you can require it is via CBA, which we don't have.
04-13-2015 | 11:37 AM
#9925
Line Holder
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From: Stick Monkey
04-13-2015 | 11:40 AM
#9926
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From: Stick Monkey
By the way, congratulations Skywest Forum - you've reached 1000 pages. Now all you kids better read EVERY page before you ask any questions. Otherwise, you're just lazy.
04-13-2015 | 11:59 AM
#9927
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From: RJ Captain
Lack of reserves = why the company wants the new mandatory reflow policy. Actually I'm sure the company thinks we already have a mandatory reflow policy.
They're hiring reflow notification teams to meet you at the aircraft or track you down on a break.
They're hiring reflow notification teams to meet you at the aircraft or track you down on a break.
04-13-2015 | 12:17 PM
#9928
Prime Minister/Moderator
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From: Engines Turn or People Swim
The company probably cannot require details about your medical condition, but they can require a doc to certify that you missed work for a medical reason. If you wanted to, you could ask the doc to descr6ibe the condition if you thought that would make the employer more understanding.
If an FMLA claim is already open for the condition, then no additional documentation is required beyond initial FMLA paperwork.
04-13-2015 | 12:27 PM
#9929
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From: Engines Turn or People Swim
The way I've seen it applied is that emergency is appropriate for...
- Any (non-medical) unforseen circumstances (car broke, accident driving in, child care failure, highway closed by snow, etc)
- Death in the family
- Major life event (includes job interviews)
The thing about emergency is that they're entitled to ask for deets (and possibly verification, like if you non-reved to HI for a funeral). There could also be pushback if they don't agree that the situation warranted emergency.
Also if something is going to be so distracting that it's dangerous you should call in for that too (ie wife dropped the d-bomb on your way out then door).
- Any (non-medical) unforseen circumstances (car broke, accident driving in, child care failure, highway closed by snow, etc)
- Death in the family
- Major life event (includes job interviews)
The thing about emergency is that they're entitled to ask for deets (and possibly verification, like if you non-reved to HI for a funeral). There could also be pushback if they don't agree that the situation warranted emergency.
Also if something is going to be so distracting that it's dangerous you should call in for that too (ie wife dropped the d-bomb on your way out then door).
04-13-2015 | 12:31 PM
#9930
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Now that we need to create a reflow policy, my hope is the first thing we do is define reflow. Reflow should be for flight cancels or IROPS. IROPS do not include you not staffing the company properly. In fact, let's shoot for time and a half for any schedule change if reserve staffing is below 10%. There has to be a severe financial penalty for messing with our schedules to cover their lack of foresight.
And everyone that thinks the company owns you from the time you check in to the time your footprint ends, bid reserve. For those that had to suffer years with that schedule, we are happy to have a line and know what our day and month will look like.
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