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05-15-2014 | 08:16 AM
#5042
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From: Another RJ FO
Of course you can do it that way if able, but PerpetualFlyer makes it sound like he somehow has seniority to be awarded that which I debate. Trades got a lot harder after 117. I've found it pretty hard to do anything other than trade for a different trip that falls on the same days as my awarded one.
05-15-2014 | 08:31 AM
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Where in my post did I say anything about not holding a line? The last time I was on reserve was a year and a half ago. All that I said is that 2 years seniority is actually pretty junior at a company with 7.5 year upgrades.
I bid 70% in one of our most junior bases so I'm not sure I believe that you're holding 15 days off with 85 credit as a 2 year FO. This month I was awarded 99 with 10 days off.
I bid 70% in one of our most junior bases so I'm not sure I believe that you're holding 15 days off with 85 credit as a 2 year FO. This month I was awarded 99 with 10 days off.
05-15-2014 | 08:52 AM
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Where in my post did I say anything about not holding a line? The last time I was on reserve was a year and a half ago. All that I said is that 2 years seniority is actually pretty junior at a company with 7.5 year upgrades.
I bid 70% in one of our most junior bases so I'm not sure I believe that you're holding 15 days off with 85 credit as a 2 year FO. This month I was awarded 99 with 10 days off.
I bid 70% in one of our most junior bases so I'm not sure I believe that you're holding 15 days off with 85 credit as a 2 year FO. This month I was awarded 99 with 10 days off.
I agree, being savvy with PBS and swapping/dropping will enable you to sweeten the schedule quite nicely.
05-15-2014 | 09:12 AM
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I'm with rcfd, 2 years at SkyWest is not senior at all. 6 years full as FO now will not be top 30% in all of our bases. MSP is about the only RJ base that late 07 new hires and early 08 are senior FOs in base.
The definition of "holding" is what your seniority can hold. Swapping stuff on sked- has nothing to do with seniority.
I agree, being savvy with PBS and swapping/dropping will enable you to sweeten the schedule quite nicely.
The definition of "holding" is what your seniority can hold. Swapping stuff on sked- has nothing to do with seniority.
I agree, being savvy with PBS and swapping/dropping will enable you to sweeten the schedule quite nicely.
05-15-2014 | 09:48 AM
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Now that we're going into a time where staffing is an issue and block hours are high I don't think there's any way to bid lower credit. After you posted about having 2 years seniority and getting 85 hours I looked at my Required Minimum Line Credit from last month and it was 89 hours. There was no way PBS could have even given me a line with 85 hours and 15 days off.
05-15-2014 | 10:00 AM
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How much could one expect to credit shooting for 12 or 13 days off?
05-15-2014 | 10:08 AM
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Understanding PBS helps but there's a limit as to how much it can help someone junior. When I was new I used to fly with the RSR and one of the guys who worked the PBS helpline all the time. Both would show me their bids and look at my bids and give me suggestions every month. I eventually started getting better lines than people who were somewhat senior to me. I still didn't get good lines though, just better than lines I should have gotten.
Now that we're going into a time where staffing is an issue and block hours are high I don't think there's any way to bid lower credit. After you posted about having 2 years seniority and getting 85 hours I looked at my Required Minimum Line Credit from last month and it was 89 hours. There was no way PBS could have even given me a line with 85 hours and 15 days off.
Now that we're going into a time where staffing is an issue and block hours are high I don't think there's any way to bid lower credit. After you posted about having 2 years seniority and getting 85 hours I looked at my Required Minimum Line Credit from last month and it was 89 hours. There was no way PBS could have even given me a line with 85 hours and 15 days off.
05-15-2014 | 10:17 AM
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From: RJ right-seat warmer
How do you guys define good vs. bad trips? Is it the ratio of TAFB divided by credit hours? So for example, a trip with a TAFB of 80 hours with a credit of 16 hours would be bad, whereas a trip with a TAFB of 80 hours with a credit of 30 hours would be good? Or am I dramatically oversimplifying?
I guess there are other factors that go into it...like in December, I'd probably take a lower-credit trip to San Diego as opposed to a higher-credit trip to Calgary...
Anyhow, would just be curious to learn about how you judge the 'quality' of a trip beyond the very simple metric of TAFB/Credit hours.
I guess there are other factors that go into it...like in December, I'd probably take a lower-credit trip to San Diego as opposed to a higher-credit trip to Calgary...
Anyhow, would just be curious to learn about how you judge the 'quality' of a trip beyond the very simple metric of TAFB/Credit hours.
05-15-2014 | 10:35 AM
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A "normal" trip would credit about 5 hours per day on average. 4 day =20 hours. We sort of define a long TAFB 4 day trip as anything over 80 hours. I would say for a 4 day the following: 20 hours credit, 80 hours TAFB = average. If you credit more with less TAFB you are on a good trip. A very good 4 day would be 25 or 26 hours credit with 80 hours or less TAFB at Skywest. There are some very bad trips such as 18-20 hours credit for 90 hours TAFB. Does that sound about right to everyone?
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