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#5011
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Joined APC: Feb 2014
Posts: 71
Not even slightly
I'll say it again, there is absolutely no reduction in flying in SFO this summer. In fact, there is a scheduled increase this summer than what would be considered normal. The EMB is the second most profitable aircraft in the fleet. There will be no retirement or groundings of EMBs. That being said, there is a strategic plan in place to compensate for the runway closures. This plan is creating the anomalies you are seeing. It will all work itself out. That is all I can say.
I'll say it again, there is absolutely no reduction in flying in SFO this summer. In fact, there is a scheduled increase this summer than what would be considered normal. The EMB is the second most profitable aircraft in the fleet. There will be no retirement or groundings of EMBs. That being said, there is a strategic plan in place to compensate for the runway closures. This plan is creating the anomalies you are seeing. It will all work itself out. That is all I can say.
#5013
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: May 2009
Position: Another RJ FO
Posts: 1,272
I can't imagine how anyone can make any money on an RJ flying SFO-SMF or SFO-MRY. In a Citation on that route (with a better climb rate than an RJ), you barely have time to climb to 10,000' before it's time to descend again. Given turbofan fuel burns, I have got to think the cost per seat mile on a 55-nm direct route flight in an RJ (OK, maybe 70-80 miles if you add vectoring, approaches etc), is ruinously high. But what do I know?
I left the Brasilia yet most of my flights now are shorter than the Brasilia flights anyway.
#5014
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2013
Posts: 611
The CRJ9 is first. The E120 is second. Hopefully this will help clarify.
Also, the reserve situation you see is something only during this summer. If there is a loss of EMBs in the near future it will be due to extensive damage such as ramp rash. If there is a reduction in EMB flying before the end of the year it will NOT be in SFO or LAX. I don't know why everyone is freaking out. Take a deep breath and relax.
#5016
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Joined APC: Apr 2014
Position: RJ right-seat warmer
Posts: 632
The CRJ9 is first. The E120 is second. Hopefully this will help clarify.
Also, the reserve situation you see is something only during this summer. If there is a loss of EMBs in the near future it will be due to extensive damage such as ramp rash. If there is a reduction in EMB flying before the end of the year it will NOT be in SFO or LAX. I don't know why everyone is freaking out. Take a deep breath and relax.
Also, the reserve situation you see is something only during this summer. If there is a loss of EMBs in the near future it will be due to extensive damage such as ramp rash. If there is a reduction in EMB flying before the end of the year it will NOT be in SFO or LAX. I don't know why everyone is freaking out. Take a deep breath and relax.
Is pulling out of 2 EMB SFO served markets (MOD and LMT.)
How does this not translate to a significant drawdown in EMB flying? Obviously there's less need for EMB pilots if they've just switched 2 EMB classes to the RJ...
#5017
Gets Summer Off
Joined APC: May 2009
Position: AA
Posts: 667
And again, while I understand why the company is doing this (they'll save a mint on cancellation pay), I absolutely do not agree with it. This will be a pay cut for the erstwhile bottom lineholders.
#5018
I'm confused...guys holding lines on the EMB are going back to reserve....the reserve roster is double the normal target...training classes have been switched to the RJ...and classes are being told that 6 Bros are being taken offline. Oh, and OO
Is pulling out of 2 EMB SFO served markets (MOD and LMT.)
How does this not translate to a significant drawdown in EMB flying? Obviously there's less need for EMB pilots if they've just switched 2 EMB classes to the RJ...
Is pulling out of 2 EMB SFO served markets (MOD and LMT.)
How does this not translate to a significant drawdown in EMB flying? Obviously there's less need for EMB pilots if they've just switched 2 EMB classes to the RJ...
#5019
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2013
Posts: 611
My understanding is that the amount of planned EMB flying is going to stay the same. However it's probably going to be highly variable on a daily basis depending on SFO weather and the resultant delays and cancellations. So they're just going to keep a bunch of extra crews on reserve and assign the flying on the days they're actually able to fly it. At least that's what I've been able to glean from scheduling reports and other sources. If someone knows better (I'm looking at you, NVUS!), please correct me.
And again, while I understand why the company is doing this (they'll save a mint on cancellation pay), I absolutely do not agree with it. This will be a pay cut for the erstwhile bottom lineholders.
And again, while I understand why the company is doing this (they'll save a mint on cancellation pay), I absolutely do not agree with it. This will be a pay cut for the erstwhile bottom lineholders.
LMT was necessary. That will be more obvious down the road. MOD is going to be switching to RJ service to LAX (by an unspecified carrier on a CRJ-200, do the math). Why force MOD to endure the summer ahead at SFO if the service will transition to jets to LAX soon? I'd say SkyWest just saved a whole bunch of passengers a lot of frustration.
#5020
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2014
Position: RJ right-seat warmer
Posts: 632
Seriously, relax. Reserve duty will give you a stroke if you're getting this worked up and you haven't even set foot in the training center. The Brasilias have been "going away" since I was hired 8 years ago... And yet they are still here, and the cornerstone of our pro-rate flying, natch. This SFO thing this summer is just a temporary glitch, and things should go back to normal in the fall. On a side note about LMT and MOD: LMT was a terrible schedule for crews and passengers alike, and never fulfilled its promise while being one of the highest sources of fatigue calls. MOD is very drivable from other bay area airports, and if loads weren't high, was a logical choice to end service in the face of certain delays and cancellations this summer. Consider it a cutting of losses. It is not, however, an indication that the EMB sky is falling.
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