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Old 07-30-2014 | 03:22 AM
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Yeah sorry, about a year for phx and psp.
How about LAX for CRJ?
Old 07-30-2014 | 03:24 AM
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Originally Posted by NVUS
Next time you talk with them, throw these numbers out:

OO - 98 CRJ7s, 36 CRJ9s, 40 E-175s
EV - 41 CRJ7s, 28 CRJ9s

That's a grand total of 243 large RJs.

Compass will have almost 60 someday! Mesa doesnt even have plans to operate 100 yet. Republic barely operates 150 altogether.
SkyWest hasn't announced any additional contracts for the Ejets they have on order. They stated their costs are higher than other regionals and its making it difficult to find partners. As the other large RJs come off contract there is no guarantee those contracts are renewed.

That's making people/company nervous.
Old 07-30-2014 | 03:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Westerner
SkyWest hasn't announced any additional contracts for the Ejets they have on order. They stated their costs are higher than other regionals and its making it difficult to find partners. As the other large RJs come off contract there is no guarantee those contracts are renewed.

That's making people/company nervous.
What would make you happy? SkyWest announcing a contract to operate 50 E-175s for Delta starting in 2016? SkyWest replacing all United CRJ7s with E-175s starting in 2017? Is it worth giving away all of your plans for 300-600 aircraft years in advance? Hell, when anyone mentions the MRJ they say that is soooo many years from now....who cares? So tell me, who has announced any new E-175 flying past the year 2015? The answer is absolutely no one.
Old 07-30-2014 | 04:23 AM
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Originally Posted by NVUS
What would make you happy? SkyWest announcing a contract to operate 50 E-175s for Delta starting in 2016? SkyWest replacing all United CRJ7s with E-175s starting in 2017? Is it worth giving away all of your plans for 300-600 aircraft years in advance? Hell, when anyone mentions the MRJ they say that is soooo many years from now....who cares? So tell me, who has announced any new E-175 flying past the year 2015? The answer is absolutely no one.
Compass announced flying 175s for American starting 2015. Is that what you mean?
Old 07-30-2014 | 05:06 AM
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Originally Posted by AlaskaBound
Compass announced flying 175s for American starting 2015. Is that what you mean?
No, because none of those deliveries stretch past the year 2015. There is not one contracted delivery of an E-175 in the year 2016 at any regional airline. Everyone is freaking out over nothing.
Old 07-30-2014 | 05:18 AM
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Originally Posted by NVUS
No, because none of those deliveries stretch past the year 2015. There is not one contracted delivery of an E-175 in the year 2016 at any regional airline. Everyone is freaking out over nothing.
Except for the 40 that AAG has yet to award.
Old 07-30-2014 | 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by NVUS
Next time you talk with them, throw these numbers out:

OO - 98 CRJ7s, 36 CRJ9s, 40 E-175s
EV - 41 CRJ7s, 28 CRJ9s

That's a grand total of 243 large RJs.

Compass will have almost 60 someday! Mesa doesnt even have plans to operate 100 yet. Republic barely operates 150 altogether.
The CRJs will be come obsolete, already becoming maintenance pigs. SKYW doesn't even own all the CRJ's... Delta can easily shift the ones they control to those with lower costs, especially since we are not meeting performance goals.

There is no use arguing with you, as you can't see past today. If you aren't the cheapest, you aren't going to get the flying. SkyWest can't attract pilots in droves with a 7 year upgrade, which is precisely why Mesa and Compass with their much lower costs and fast upgrades will continue to have no problem hiring or winning the contracts. Even if you add a few 175 in the future to replace the 200's, that does not represent growth, only fleet replacement, which does nothing to shorten the upgrade time or quality of life or pilots.

52 CRJ700 and 4 900 come off contract in the next 2 years (all at SKYW). There is absolutely NO guarantee that they will be extended. As of today yes, SkyWest is doing okay, but the rest of us are looking at the future.

You're also missing the big fact that UA/DL are maxed out on the amount of large 76 seat RJs they are allowed to contract out. So unless you are betting that their pilot unions will relax scope even further than its just not going to happen.

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Old 07-30-2014 | 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by NVUS
Next time you talk with them, throw these numbers out:

OO - 98 CRJ7s, 36 CRJ9s, 40 E-175s
EV - 41 CRJ7s, 28 CRJ9s

That's a grand total of 243 large RJs.

Compass will have almost 60 someday! Mesa doesnt even have plans to operate 100 yet. Republic barely operates 150 altogether.
You need to lay off the SGU/Culture crack pipe dude.

Every large RJ there represents underpaid crewmembers, less jobs at mainline, fewer career opportunities, etc.

Make no mistake, I know SkyWest Inc. is nervous about the future. Skyrocketing costs, senior employees that drink the kool aid who won't get the f out, health care, lower paying regionals getting business, the list could go on forever.

Step outside of your bubble, take a look at the world, and stop being so naive. There is life outside of SGU.
Old 07-30-2014 | 07:45 AM
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Anyone know of a frasca 142 ftd in the southeast between atl and charlotte? Calling very flight school has Berne a losing proposition need it for interview prep thx
Old 07-30-2014 | 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by NVUS
What would make you happy? SkyWest announcing a contract to operate 50 E-175s for Delta starting in 2016? SkyWest replacing all United CRJ7s with E-175s starting in 2017? Is it worth giving away all of your plans for 300-600 aircraft years in advance? Hell, when anyone mentions the MRJ they say that is soooo many years from now....who cares? So tell me, who has announced any new E-175 flying past the year 2015? The answer is absolutely no one.
SkyWest doesn't have plans for any of those aircraft... its all predicated on the fact that UA/DL will come calling for some larger RJs, which they can't because scope prevents it. So of course nobody has announced it, because they can't. But you can bet yourself when they do have the ability to add a few additional 76 seat aircraft they are going to go to the lowest bidder (lowest cost), and that my friend is where you should be concerned. SkyWest does not nor will it ever have the lowest costs. It can't just try to cruise along on its reputation alone. This airline is much different than it was even just 10 years ago... there is so much cheap feed now that SkyWest is almost an afterthought.
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