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Old 10-14-2014 | 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Joliet
It's your ship. You set the tone. I have no problem telling people, politely, that they suck, and better get their **** together.
That's right. I've been a CA (prior to SKW). That's how it's done!
Old 10-14-2014 | 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by elmetal
uh not to start a flame war... the bro can go higher than 250 and probably climb at more FPM than the 200 while doing so
I know it's one of the few t props that can, I just enjoy my time on the jets a lot now and that's after being typed in 3 121 t props and flying a few GA versions as well.
Old 10-14-2014 | 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by ClickClickBoom
Oooohhhh,
You kids with the "my vienna sausage is bigger than yours" arguments are classic, you wanna know what the best airplane is.......
THE ONE THAT PAYS THE MOST.
When you grow up you will realize that flying airliners isn't a johnson comparison contest, and since you need a micrometer to measure yours, you already lost.
Sorry, its been a long month flying with 40K numbers who think 2 years of reserve and 375 hours of 200 time makes them Sully, newsflash, just because the captain doesn't say anything, it doesn't mean you are ready for the Space Shuttle Advanced Commander Course, it just means they are tired of talking to people who haven't got a clue. You want info you gotta ask. Now go back to your room, and admire how smart you look in your uniform hat.
Not sure why you're quoting me but it seems you like to rag on newer guys quite a bit. Maybe you should be a mentor to these new guys who you think need some help. Otherwise if they're that bad maybe you should contact pro stands or take some time off seems like work is getting to you.
Old 10-14-2014 | 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by rcfd13
From my experience the captains who upgraded in < 2 years and have never sat reserve are the ones who don't have a clue. The worst captains at the company fall into that category. A lot of the best captains I've flown with are ones who were FO for 7 years with no movement.
This times a million.
Old 10-14-2014 | 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by wrxpilot
That's right. I've been a CA (prior to SKW). That's how it's done!
Duhhh,
If they are within the SOP, I let them fly their own ship, step outside and we have a friendly chat. I hated micro managers and recognize that some people have to figure it out on their own, but a raggedy approach within the SOP is still painful to watch. The majority of the 40k numbers do just fine, there seem to be a sour band of Sullys that are a lot of work. One of the smoothest, squared away F/O, I have ever flown with had never sat in the left seat of anything bigger than a 172, he was a natural! He is flying freight in a 747.

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Old 10-14-2014 | 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by ClickClickBoom
Duhhh,
If they are within the SOP, I let them fly their own ship, step outside and we have a friendly chat. I hated micro managers and recognize that some people have to figure it out on their own, but a raggedy approach within SOP is still painful to watch. The majority of the 40k numbers do just fine, there seem to be a sour band of Sullys that are a lot of work.
Based on all of your posts you seem like a real gem to fly with.

I'm a 40k number FO and I can tell you that the type of captain I fly with has a lot to do with my own attitude, whether I consciously want it to be that way or not.. It's really hard to stay positive when I fly with some jerk of a captain who micro manages and complains about everything I do. That in turn ends up causing the captain to get even more mad since it puts me in a bad mood and gives them more to complain about. When I fly with a captain who actually offers constructive criticism and is a generally nice person I usually do the same in return and get plenty of compliments. I'd say 95% of the captains I fly with are the latter.

If you're the kind of captain who thinks all of your FOs are stuck up horrible people then the problem probably lies with you and not them. If you're a jerk to them they will be a jerk back to you.
Old 10-14-2014 | 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by wrxpilot
Absolutely agree! There are of course exceptions either way, but I can often tell the quick upgrade guys pretty quickly.

Also, I'm a 40kish number, I've been here almost 4 years, I've flown two different types at SKW, and have flown about 2500 hours at this company. ClickClickBoom, lose the attitude regarding 40k employee numbers. It really has nothing to do with whatever issues YOU have.
And guess what, wanna measure johnsons, 15k+ hours, multiple type ratings, flew the EMB, and all the variants of the CRJ from the rope start Hooptie with A engines,intermix and Bs,prior to SKYW flew the Pacific from OAK to the islands in single engines to turbo props on delivery runs, single pilot, delivered above the artic circle, south of panama too, pre GPS. My "attitude" with the 40k numbers is that sour spot on the seniority list that think because they spent 2 years on reserve, their dues are paid, guess what you aren't nearly as good as you think. My issues are when I let some 40k numbskull roll towards OKC and 60 miles out they are still cruising along fat dumb and happy at 39000 and no ATIS read, nor even asked for, no thought to descent planning. I asked him at 90 miles if he was gonna get down on time, he said yup. Let's say we had a long downwind.
The joke is I aint even that good, just good enough to survive stuff that killed more than a few of my coworkers. If you wanna go into the night freight stuff we can go there too if you like. I am trying to convey to some, that getting hired is just the start of a long learning process the ends when you retire, but you shuttle commanders know all that stuff, right?
Old 10-14-2014 | 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by rcfd13
Based on all of your posts you seem like a real gem to fly with.

I'm a 40k number FO and I can tell you that the type of captain I fly with has a lot to do with my own attitude, whether I consciously want it to be that way or not.. It's really hard to stay positive when I fly with some jerk of a captain who micro manages and complains about everything I do. That in turn ends up causing the captain to get even more mad since it puts me in a bad mood and gives them more to complain about. When I fly with a captain who actually offers constructive criticism and is a generally nice person I usually do the same in return and get plenty of compliments. I'd say 95% of the captains I fly with are the latter.

If you're the kind of captain who thinks all of your FOs are stuck up horrible people then the problem probably lies with you and not them. If you're a jerk to them they will be a jerk back to you.
Did you even read the quote you quoted? If you have to let us know about your compliments, "there's your sign"
It speaks volumes.
Old 10-14-2014 | 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by ClickClickBoom
Did you even read the quote you quoted? If you have to let us know about your compliments, "there's your sign"
It speaks volumes.
I'm convinced that you're either a troll or a total tool of a captain. Since I like almost everyone I fly with at SKYW I'm leaning more towards troll. Are you even actually a captain?

It's amazing to me that you find so many people that you hate when the majority of the pilots like almost everyone they fly with. When you're the 1% you're the one who is the problem, not the rest of us.
Old 10-14-2014 | 05:45 PM
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ZEN MY BROS, go do some yoga.
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