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Old 04-13-2015, 04:27 PM
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Looks like Skywest and ExpressJet are at the bottom of the customer satisfaction report that came out today. Envoy was the worst apparently.
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Old 04-13-2015, 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by srbpilot View Post
Sounds like the qol at skywest is not as the picture that recruitment is painting.
QOL depends on where you're based, what equipment, seniority, commuting etc etc. Pay wise were about on par with the higher earning regionals. People on forums are generally people that complain, and your life is going to be crappy anywhere on reserve regardless of regional.
I think Skywest has a great corporate culture, a proven track record as a company and a multitude of bases. Upgrade time is 4 years right now and dropping, attrition right now Is about 30 at my seniority (4 years in) and rumors I've heard at the school house point to a further drop coming.
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Old 04-13-2015, 07:54 PM
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QOL depends on where you're based, what equipment, seniority, commuting etc etc. Pay wise were about on par with the higher earning regionals. People on forums are generally people that complain, and your life is going to be crappy anywhere on reserve regardless of regional.

I think Skywest has a great corporate culture, a proven track record as a company and a multitude of bases. Upgrade time is 4 years right now and dropping, attrition right now Is about 30 at my seniority (4 years in) and rumors I've heard at the school house point to a further drop coming.

I don't agree about the great corporate culture. We are talking about a company that owns two airlines and pits each airline's employees against each other just to suppress their wages so they make a little more profit. Also, when including work rules, retirement, and insurance, I'm not convinced that Skywest isn't anything other than average in total compensation.
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Old 04-13-2015, 08:57 PM
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I don't agree about the great corporate culture. We are talking about a company that owns two airlines and pits each airline's employees against each other just to suppress their wages so they make a little more profit. Also, when including work rules, retirement, and insurance, I'm not convinced that Skywest isn't anything other than average in total compensation.
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Old 04-13-2015, 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Nevets View Post
I don't agree about the great corporate culture. We are talking about a company that owns two airlines and pits each airline's employees against each other just to suppress their wages so they make a little more profit. Also, when including work rules, retirement, and insurance, I'm not convinced that Skywest isn't anything other than average in total compensation.
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I have compared W-2s with 2 buddies at different regionals and the numbers are very close when adjusted for block/credit differences. Add the lack of CBA protection and the Dixie College dropout effect into the scheduling equation and SKYW work rules tip it in the wrong direction. For the complainer commenters , who are 4th year experts,
I will say, hmmmmn, why do you think guys who are making over 100k complaining? No amount of money will make your QOL good when you are working 19+ days a month. I am glad you are in a sweet spot, because I wouldn't wish my schedule on anyone. AOS is the problem it starts at the top and does bids, and then it starts at the top again and back fills from the top down again, 4 day trips with a stand up sidecar is almost as good as a 4 day with with a 2 day trailer, with just enough time to go home and change out the skivvies.
Yes my schedule was far better when I was bidding 50% as I ascended the list my schedule deteriorated correspondingly. Since the senior guys bid over to the ERJ the suck is increasing monthly. Enjoy your life while you can this summer is going to be epic in a bad way,
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Old 04-14-2015, 02:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Nevets View Post
I don't agree about the great corporate culture. We are talking about a company that owns two airlines and pits each airline's employees against each other just to suppress their wages so they make a little more profit. Also, when including work rules, retirement, and insurance, I'm not convinced that Skywest isn't anything other than average in total compensation.
You don't work at Skywest so you don't have any experience with our culture.
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Old 04-14-2015, 05:59 AM
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Originally Posted by ThreeStripe View Post
Looks like Skywest and ExpressJet are at the bottom of the customer satisfaction report that came out today. Envoy was the worst apparently.
You are as bad as the media. Know what you are talking about before you talk, read an article, do some homework. I saw that on the news so I dug in for info. Had the list only 5 airlines listed Alaska would be "the worst airline". SkyWest, Expressjet, and Envoy were the only regionals included on the list of mainline and low cost carriers.

COME ON MAN, BRING A BRAIN IF YOU ARE GOING TO TOSS POO!!
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Old 04-14-2015, 06:24 AM
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Originally Posted by MoovenUP View Post
You are as bad as the media. Know what you are talking about before you talk, read an article, do some homework. I saw that on the news so I dug in for info. Had the list only 5 airlines listed Alaska would be "the worst airline". SkyWest, Expressjet, and Envoy were the only regionals included on the list of mainline and low cost carriers.

COME ON MAN, BRING A BRAIN IF YOU ARE GOING TO TOSS POO!!
Threw it out there for discussion since management continually says we are rocking the performance lately. Lighten up Francis.
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Old 04-14-2015, 06:56 AM
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Threw it out there for discussion since management continually says we are rocking the performance lately. Lighten up Francis.
Good point. But we are doing well for what we are given. The realistic way of looking at it is we are #1 in the regional game on that list.

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Old 04-14-2015, 07:16 AM
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Good point. But we are doing well for what we are given. The realistic way of looking at it is we are #1 in the regional game on that list.
True. SkyWest's United Express performance is better than mainline United. Also, SkyWest's Delta Connection performance is better than mainline Delta. Yup, the sky sure is falling.
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