Sweet baby mother Moses, are you guy trying to shut down this here interwebz with excessive bandwith usage? 5 lines or less (I stop paying attention after two). Use it, live it, kale smoothies. Be well.

 

Worst possible? I suggest "David1968" !









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The majors aren't giving out contracts for flying because an airline is union or non-union. Hint, look at all the UNION airlines that have been awarded new flying that either took concessions to get it, or already at the bottom of the barrel. All those union companies have worse pay and benefits than the company you're targeting.

 

Truly not picking on you or trying to call you out. But do you really believe your statement above? I felt it was concessionary when we voted it in, but hindsight now shows me that it was one of the worse things we could do.

I'll allow you to counter on the gains we realized, while I will play the devils advocate and point out which parts of our agreement (which I like that you use that word instead of contract) that I felt were lacking.

Training seat locks - Huge cost savings for company. Nothing gained for the pilots
1 year contract - Yeah that worked out awesome for us. I'm sure we will get retro pay. Penalties should have been included for not reaching agreement at the end of the year contract. We were played hard with this one.
E175 rate - Call this a wash. Not enough money for the seats, but soft time paid at this rate. So we gained something back for the horrible BHO override that we got screwed with years ago.
EMB raise - How can I forget this. We FINALLY paid the Bro guys. Please don't tell me that you think the company didn't know this plane was going away. If there was ever a nail in the coffin for the 120, the pay raise was it.
COLA - Oh wait, there wasn't a COLA.
2 Golden Days - Oh yes, 2 more unpaid days that will now screw my bid up because I still have to have 88 hours awarded in PBS. I guess it does make it so I can at least get 11 days off in a month.

Sorry I don't feel the uniform money or passport is worth much. We lost that money with our 1%. I'd love to hear the gains you felt we made, but in my book our agreement was concessionary.

 

True those point towards concessionary, but when I look at what was passing around the same time I think we got out at about breakeven. Our hourly rate which is very important to me is still higher than most and we aren't capped to 4 year FO pay or 12 year CA pay like other places.

We def had the wool over our eyes if we knew what the company's plan was for the EMB, we thought we were helping the EMB guys out meanwhile that was just the little nudge of pilots they needed to pass it.

It could def have been a lot worse.

 

Last years pay package was nothing more than a pay freeze. Factor in inflation and it was a pay cut.

 

That is all our pay votes will ever be. Just enough to get 51%. Until we start wanting.. no demanding more, that is all we will ever get from SGU. We can't compare ourselves to a WO regional. We have 5 partners we fly for. We don't have all our eggs in one basket, and these same people who voted in concessions are now offering $20,000 per year or flow which we don't have. But when we have SAPA telling us to just take the reflow policy or else the company will just make the change anyways, I guess we get that defeatist attitude from our leadership.

Sounds like the EFB has just been announced at ASA. SAPA said their policy was uploaded to the SAPA site, but I don't see it anywhere.

 

You're right Given what other garbage was passing around the same time, this is true

 

I managed to get two mouse clicks in before Sked- blew up.

 

Wow, I didn't know airlines were still doing this since 117 began. I thought 117 prevented an airline from putting you on ready reserve after completing an assignment but apparently that is not the case at Skywest or Mesa.

 

Adding RDY to the end of assignment happens nearly every day at SKW. Amazingly enough they've never once called me during RDY. I usually spend the time working on my other job (on my laptop at the SFO Starbucks), perched on the edge of my chair for the 4:00 pm shuttle to the employee parking lot. If anyone is in SFO's Terminal 2 on a given weekend around 3:00, stop by the Starbucks next to the Virgin ticket counter and say hi. I'll be the guy trying to pretend my phone doesn't exist