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04-18-2015, 11:18 PM
#9721
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Voting in a raise for the first 4 years of FO would be about as stupid as voting in a raise for a plane that is going away in 18 months. So I won't be surprised if it happens.
We have some leverage but we won't use it to our advantage. Simply because our EB has no idea on what issues we face on the line. After seeing how much the reflow policy was pushed, I expect the effort to be focused on new guys coming in.
I would vote yes if we simply put something that required minimum reserves and JR man pay for any day that was below those numbers. How's that reserve proffering coming along? And a bonus if we fired J.O. and A.S. We should be focusing on QOL increases. I am preparing myself to be less than impressed.
We have some leverage but we won't use it to our advantage. Simply because our EB has no idea on what issues we face on the line. After seeing how much the reflow policy was pushed, I expect the effort to be focused on new guys coming in.
I would vote yes if we simply put something that required minimum reserves and JR man pay for any day that was below those numbers. How's that reserve proffering coming along? And a bonus if we fired J.O. and A.S. We should be focusing on QOL increases. I am preparing myself to be less than impressed.
04-19-2015, 08:04 AM
#9722
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Joined APC: Feb 2015
Position: Downward Dog
Posts: 1,877
Originally Posted by rickair7777
Why? They've already had several and are the best paid FO's amongst any of the big jet regionals. All that at then expense of CA's who already paid their dues as FO's before the raises.
I can see a lot of merit with your argument, I'm a no vote unless your longevity gets the highest pay raise.
04-19-2015, 08:28 AM
#9723
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Joined APC: Apr 2012
Position: PLEASE ADVISE
Posts: 339
What are the odds that SAPA looks at it and decides not to send it to the pilot group? Less than 0%?
04-19-2015, 01:25 PM
#9724
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Joined APC: Jul 2013
Position: 175 CA
Posts: 1,544
Correct. They've worked on this a long time ... 
04-19-2015, 02:53 PM
#9725
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Joined APC: Dec 2007
Position: EMB 145 CPT
Posts: 2,934
Originally Posted by rickair7777
Why? They've already had several and are the best paid FO's amongst any of the big jet regionals. All that at then expense of CA's who already paid their dues as FO's before the raises.
Anything that pits one demographic of pilots against another is always a big mistake. And one that I see SAPA make over and over again.
Originally Posted by disillusioned
Voting in a raise for the first 4 years of FO would be about as stupid as voting in a raise for a plane that is going away in 18 months. So I won't be surprised if it happens.
We have some leverage but we won't use it to our advantage. Simply because our EB has no idea on what issues we face on the line. After seeing how much the reflow policy was pushed, I expect the effort to be focused on new guys coming in.
I would vote yes if we simply put something that required minimum reserves and JR man pay for any day that was below those numbers. How's that reserve proffering coming along? And a bonus if we fired J.O. and A.S. We should be focusing on QOL increases. I am preparing myself to be less than impressed.
We have some leverage but we won't use it to our advantage. Simply because our EB has no idea on what issues we face on the line. After seeing how much the reflow policy was pushed, I expect the effort to be focused on new guys coming in.
I would vote yes if we simply put something that required minimum reserves and JR man pay for any day that was below those numbers. How's that reserve proffering coming along? And a bonus if we fired J.O. and A.S. We should be focusing on QOL increases. I am preparing myself to be less than impressed.
Just an FYI, at xjt, if they don't have a minimum of 10% reserve coverage, not only do pilots get 150/200% pay and restored day off for a "reflow" but they also get a vacation day for each day they are reflowed.
04-19-2015, 03:19 PM
#9726
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Joined APC: Jul 2007
Position: ERJ CA
Posts: 262
I'm thinking it will include a small 401k increase. Some slight increase to First year FO pay, which we essentially have already through the sign on bonus. And some worthless change to our performance rewards.
04-19-2015, 11:16 PM
#9727
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Joined APC: Jan 2014
Position: Canadian Alluminum Tubing Assistant Transporter
Posts: 164
Originally Posted by Drums4life
I'm thinking it will include a small 401k increase. Some slight increase to First year FO pay, which we essentially have already through the sign on bonus. And some worthless change to our performance rewards.
04-19-2015, 11:41 PM
#9728
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Joined APC: May 2009
Posts: 2,035
Originally Posted by WesternSkies
Fo's should get a giant raise.
ALL crew members should!
04-19-2015, 11:45 PM
#9729
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Joined APC: May 2009
Posts: 2,035
Originally Posted by Cruz5350
They hardly spent any time as an FO big difference to the guys who have spent many years in the right seat. Our senior captains chose to stay at SkyWest with multiple opportunitys to leave if they want stay great but don't expect a massive raise for staying here.
It's really nice to see appreciative "team players" such as yourself...
04-20-2015, 03:29 AM
#9730
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Joined APC: Jul 2007
Position: ERJ CA
Posts: 262
Originally Posted by CloudShredder
What sign on bonus...?
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