Skywest
04-20-2015, 07:16 AM
#9761
Respek
Joined APC: Jul 2010
Posts: 2,603
It is in an effort to find any and anyone to come here.
04-20-2015, 07:20 AM
#9762
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2013
Position: 175 CA
Posts: 1,544
Originally Posted by Cruz5350
It is in an effort to find any and anyone to come here.
04-20-2015, 07:21 AM
#9763
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2014
Posts: 613
Site is now down for maintanence. Why did we switch the site again?
Doesn't sound like any QOL increases so far. Not impressed.
Doesn't sound like any QOL increases so far. Not impressed.
04-20-2015, 07:24 AM
#9764
MK Ultra Candidate
Joined APC: Feb 2013
Position: Prime Leader of Boko Harumph
Posts: 1,167
Originally Posted by Cruz5350
It's ignorant to think that you can and always will be a Captain once upgraded. We have a huge 50 seat operation that can and will go away. Nothing says it won't be slashed and a portion of our pilot group downgraded. I'd rather secure gains in all areas not just where it benefits me. You're not going to garner any support for sitting 5 years in the right seat when most our guys spent nearly a decade.
04-20-2015, 07:31 AM
#9765
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2013
Posts: 183
Originally Posted by disillusioned
Site is now down for maintanence. Why did we switch the site again?
Doesn't sound like any QOL increases so far. Not impressed.
Doesn't sound like any QOL increases so far. Not impressed.
The companies initial offers must have been pretty cutthroat, for it to be a reward to retain our current soft time pay. Seems the company bluffed sapa with a couple really bad initial offers to get a contract they want that attracts new hires and doesn't offer much else.
04-20-2015, 07:34 AM
#9766
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2011
Posts: 122
Some one post it for those of us who have left. We need a good laugh!
04-20-2015, 07:51 AM
#9767
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Joined APC: Apr 2012
Position: PLEASE ADVISE
Posts: 339
Do you have a yes vote? sorry, you'll have to go fish.
04-20-2015, 08:56 AM
#9768
MK Ultra Candidate
Joined APC: Feb 2013
Position: Prime Leader of Boko Harumph
Posts: 1,167
Originally Posted by SKYWCRJCA
Some one post it for those of us who have left. We need a good laugh!
- Captain pay rates will increase
- ▫ $1.00 on May 1, 2015
- ▫ $1.00 on January 1, 2017
- First Officer Years 2-8 pay rates will increase
- ▫ $0.50 on May 1, 2015
- ▫ $0.50 on January 1, 2017
- First Officer Year 1 pay rates will increase
- ▫ To $30.00 on May 1, 2015
- ▫ The Company has the right to increase first-year FO rates up to and including $36.50
The rest is equally odious, proof that SAPA is owned by the company
04-20-2015, 09:02 AM
#9769
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2005
Position: RJ Captain
Posts: 1,174
There's more info on the SAPA website under the Exec board/hot topics page. The email that was sent out on SkyWestonline has very little detail.
This is a 4 year deal and takes us through the end of 2018. $1.00/.50 on May 1st and that again as the only increase Jan. 1 2017. Someone could pull out a calculator, but I think that averages about a half a percent a year.
Increase to 401K match by 1%. 3/5/7 % now based on longevity. 5% at 5 years, 7% at 10 years. New vesting schedule. It might not be "pay", but there is a value to this.
Per diem from $1.80 to $1.85, and to $1.90 effective 1/1/2017.
New pilot only bonus program. SAPA gives examples. It could pay up to several thousand a year if we stay profitable. This is on top of the current bonus program.
No retro pay.
No change to work rules.
This is a 4 year deal and takes us through the end of 2018. $1.00/.50 on May 1st and that again as the only increase Jan. 1 2017. Someone could pull out a calculator, but I think that averages about a half a percent a year.
Increase to 401K match by 1%. 3/5/7 % now based on longevity. 5% at 5 years, 7% at 10 years. New vesting schedule. It might not be "pay", but there is a value to this.
Per diem from $1.80 to $1.85, and to $1.90 effective 1/1/2017.
New pilot only bonus program. SAPA gives examples. It could pay up to several thousand a year if we stay profitable. This is on top of the current bonus program.
No retro pay.
No change to work rules.
04-20-2015, 09:08 AM
#9770
Line Holder
Joined APC: May 2012
Posts: 44
My summary...
Top end pay rates are decent for this year, but no COLA adjustments make them woefully inadequate 4 years down the road.
Per diem is good. Top of the industry.
401k just average.
PPS is a nice additional benefit, but not tied to INC. Sure that works in SkyWest Airlines' pilots favor at the moment, but could lose out big if ExpressJet ever gets their operation turned around.
Bonuses: Too much company discretion = loss of negotiating leverage
Tough choice for SkyWest pilots in my opinion. Definitely some good and bad mixed in here. Good luck. Too bad the SkyWest and ExpressJet pilots haven't forced one list or a merger. Until then management will continue to whipsaw the 2 groups. Pilots lose. Management wins.
Top end pay rates are decent for this year, but no COLA adjustments make them woefully inadequate 4 years down the road.
Per diem is good. Top of the industry.
401k just average.
PPS is a nice additional benefit, but not tied to INC. Sure that works in SkyWest Airlines' pilots favor at the moment, but could lose out big if ExpressJet ever gets their operation turned around.
Bonuses: Too much company discretion = loss of negotiating leverage
Tough choice for SkyWest pilots in my opinion. Definitely some good and bad mixed in here. Good luck. Too bad the SkyWest and ExpressJet pilots haven't forced one list or a merger. Until then management will continue to whipsaw the 2 groups. Pilots lose. Management wins.
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