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amcnd 04-19-2018 09:00 PM


Originally Posted by calmwinds (Post 2576193)
Is DFW really that far fetched? Rumors are ASA is winding down, even on the AA side. Can’t get butts in seats. Supposedly ASA dispatchers and crew support staff received their notice that the end of May is the end.

The evidences supporting that theory is on SWOL, if you seach hard enough....

calmwinds 04-19-2018 09:15 PM


Originally Posted by Simpsons (Post 2576194)
Yes it's far fetched to say we have a Dallas base when we do not have a Dallas base.

Maybe, we have a DFW base and SGU doesn’t want to disclose it until negotiations with winding down the ASA pilot group are finalized...... the recruiters know..... of course, the recruiters have been telling recruits this for over a year.

RemoveB4Flight 04-20-2018 05:51 AM


Originally Posted by calmwinds (Post 2576208)
Maybe, we have a DFW base and SGU doesn’t want to disclose it until negotiations with winding down the ASA pilot group are finalized...... the recruiters know..... of course, the recruiters have been telling recruits this for over a year.

To tell prospective new hires that we have a base that isn’t an official, current, and publicly announced domicile is what most people with good morals consider a lie.
Your last statement is proof. Recruiters have been spreading that lie for over a year.

I’m not saying it won’t happen, but until it becomes a reality, they shouldn’t be telling people it is.

amcnd 04-20-2018 05:57 AM

Inflight Training is saying DFW soon. My guess is, September’ish is the time frame.. if its not announced by then. It’s a dead end rumor... (I have my reason for that date)

trip 04-20-2018 06:37 AM


Originally Posted by Is offline (Post 2576184)
That was no surprise. They did it to 100 IAH crews and no one seemed to care. Maybe if it was SLC sapa would do something about it... Hahahaha. That’s funny.

The recruiters here will tell you anything. I have two Instructors that recently called and said the recruiters told them we had a Dallas base. I didn’t believe that’s what was said until I called the recruiter and got the same spill.

Nobody did anything because there's absolutely nothing SAPA can do other then bring it up at the next meeting, company shrugs, SAPA shrugs, moving on, next item.
What's the solution?

Check Complete 04-20-2018 08:05 AM


Originally Posted by trip (Post 2576332)
Nobody did anything because there's absolutely nothing SAPA can do other then bring it up at the next meeting, company shrugs, SAPA shrugs, moving on, next item.
What's the solution?

Unfortunetly there is no solution.

SAPA is, by design, completely powerless in moving anything against the company when the company has decided what it is or isn't going to do. Continuing with the glimmer of hope that SAPA is a realm of true representation is 100% false when you have an organization that is not self funded.

The company has absolute full authority to tell SAPA how it is going to be and what it's going to get, and it is a narrow (minded) one way street.

SAPA may look like a union, might act like a union, may tell everybody it's a union, but it simply isn't. SAPA is a company expense that provides marketing to the pilot group to manipulate them to the direction the company sees fit. Nothing more!

This pilot group cannot see that because the company is getting every dollar's worth out of SAPA.

Sad

savedbythevnav 04-20-2018 12:29 PM

Realistically, we are due for another recession. What we need to be focusing on is making ourselves competitive for that time by either keeping compensation the same or considering a 2% pay cut across the board.

Excargodog 04-20-2018 12:35 PM


Originally Posted by savedbythevnav (Post 2576565)
Realistically, we are due for another recession. What we need to be focusing on is making ourselves competitive for that time by either keeping compensation the same or considering a 2% pay cut across the board.

Depending upon a recession as a mechanism for organizational survival seems a little dicey as far as a business plan.

ImPilot I Fly 04-20-2018 10:31 PM


Originally Posted by Excargodog (Post 2576572)
Depending upon a recession as a mechanism for organizational survival seems a little dicey as far as a business plan.

"In auto parts, if you ain't growing, you're dying." - Tom Callahan Sr.

Paid2fly 04-21-2018 01:09 AM


Originally Posted by savedbythevnav (Post 2576565)
Realistically, we are due for another recession. What we need to be focusing on is making ourselves competitive for that time by either keeping compensation the same or considering a 2% pay cut across the board.









Thanks for sharing your opinion Chip...:rolleyes::rolleyes:


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