Originally Posted by Jvw700 (Post 2079062)

So you know "exactly" what happened to MP? Or is it just more assumptions?

Originally Posted by Jvw700 (Post 2079061)

My first 4 years were spent with a carrier akin to the titanic! Only the last 2 years with "chip" away ship.... Where were you at before skywest?

Originally Posted by Jvw700 (Post 2079062)

So you know "exactly" what happened to MP? Or is it just more assumptions?

Originally Posted by Is offline (Post 2079067)

I'm a regional refugee. Comair, Pinnacolaba, SkyWest.

Originally Posted by Is offline (Post 2079070)

I have heard some SAPA stories but I flew with MP a few times and what they are saying is not adding up. I know 2 capt in 2 diff bases that 95% of the FO's bid avoid, and MP gets let go for be disrespectful to a crew member, something isn't adding up.

Originally Posted by Paid2fly (Post 2079065)

Been here long enough to see a lot of other well meaning people(including myself) give up, bail out, get tired of banging their head against the wall trying to change things for the better.

Originally Posted by Jvw700 (Post 2079076)

So how does skywest compare to your comair/ pinnacle days? Do you regret leaving pinnacle? Would you rather have the old "fly it and grieve it" , maybe it will see arbitration in a few years? Just curious,what are your realistic expectations? If sapa was certified would that magically change everything?

Originally Posted by Jvw700 (Post 2079024)

I gave you some suggestions. Get involved! Problem is you're already too jaded. I think your best bet is to get out of the industry all together..... You won't be satisfied or happy no matter where you're at. (Even at the ALPA carriers). everybody is out to get you! Especially the SAPA EB!

Originally Posted by Paid2fly (Post 2079065)

Been here long enough to see a lot of other well meaning people(including myself) give up, bail out, get tired of banging their head against the wall trying to change things for the better.

Originally Posted by Is offline (Post 2079084)

The contract was very nice. It had its downs but if the positives were welcomed here it would help. If PBS messed up there you called and they fixed it. Better yet you know when there is an issue cuz the bids were published.

The "fly it and grieve it" is here too. It's happens all the time and SAPA tells you file a pic....

The positive about ALPA and real representation is legal assistance. Here I have seen too many pilots fed to the wolves and the company does nothing to help( LAX gear up landing)...

The retirement is a joke here, and that's hard to believe with as many lifer as we have, but I think it's par with the lowest in the industry.

Originally Posted by disillusioned (Post 2079085)

Nope. I love to fly and this is my dream job. Just because I am willing to call the company on their BS doesn't mean that I hate my job and I am miserable. I love the people I fly with and this could be a great company if they worked with the pilots a little. I don't think the EB is out to get me. They would have to give a crap about me first which I know isn't happening. And I don't think ALPA would fix everything. Although it would be nice to have a legal contract and some of the other benefits that a true union would bring.



I was just in the middle of writing my bio for the next election until I saw this. And this is why our QOL continues to decline. When our reps try to speak our concerns, they are told it isn't true and that pilots should email SL, TG and MT personally so they will know it's true. What's the point of having reps if the company doesn't listen to the concerns that are brought forth by them?

How's that reserve rewrite coming along? Should be any day now...