Skywest v2.0
12-13-2016 | 03:00 PM
#4671
Respek
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Is anybody really surprised by this,.... it's been known for awhile now that 50 sweaters were on the decline.
12-13-2016 | 03:12 PM
#4672
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From: ERJ CA
What's truly maddening about OBR, and I have personally witnessed this multiple times, is that CS just hates to have reserves go 'unutilized.' They hate the idea of paying someone to sit at home. So here's what happens: They will call you at 0400 on Day 1 of your reserve block and deadhead you to another base halfway across the country — say, ORD. You'll sit there for 4 or 5 days. Maybe you'll fly, maybe you won't. Meanwhile, they do the same thing to some poor guy from ORD — they'll deadhead him to your base and have him sit there for 4 or 5 days. At the end of this time, you'll both be deadheaded back to your home bases. Neither of you will have flown a single leg, and all this really accomplished was wasting money for the company. But — and this is the key — Crew Scheduling will be able to report higher reserve utilization numbers.
A couple days ago, in a post on the Skywest FB group, someone from crew support vehemently denied that they do this. Those higher reserve utilization numbers? That's why nobody can drop anything.
12-13-2016 | 03:23 PM
#4673
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From: 175 CA
Thanks to you and the others who posted for the details. I'm currently making a little over $43,000 a year instructing (before bonuses, closer to $47,000 after bonuses). Would be making over $50k if I took a promotion. Certainly not making an argument for staying instructing (hell no). Just comparing the wages.
Bit of a range though, between what you guys are saying a newhire could expect to make, and what someone who just finished their first year said that they made at ORD ($42k). $42k is sort of what I was expecting to see, and why I'm hesitant to go to Skywest when other locations are offering $60k and above. But he did say that was before training pay matched reserve and what not..
I'll figure it out. Thanks for the info!
Bit of a range though, between what you guys are saying a newhire could expect to make, and what someone who just finished their first year said that they made at ORD ($42k). $42k is sort of what I was expecting to see, and why I'm hesitant to go to Skywest when other locations are offering $60k and above. But he did say that was before training pay matched reserve and what not..
I'll figure it out. Thanks for the info!
12-13-2016 | 03:25 PM
#4674
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From: 175 CA
Def jumping the gun on the 200 stuff
Guys. The 200 as the news stated is staying, we make a lot of cash off that plane just like we did with the bro till we were forced to retire them. This is actually good news for expressjet , with their attrition and going all dual class as a company they will have a future now
Guys. The 200 as the news stated is staying, we make a lot of cash off that plane just like we did with the bro till we were forced to retire them. This is actually good news for expressjet , with their attrition and going all dual class as a company they will have a future now
12-13-2016 | 03:37 PM
#4675
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From: Reclined seat
Def jumping the gun on the 200 stuff
Guys. The 200 as the news stated is staying, we make a lot of cash off that plane just like we did with the bro till we were forced to retire them. This is actually good news for expressjet , with their attrition and going all dual class as a company they will have a future now
Guys. The 200 as the news stated is staying, we make a lot of cash off that plane just like we did with the bro till we were forced to retire them. This is actually good news for expressjet , with their attrition and going all dual class as a company they will have a future now
So please tell me how this is good for us on the ASA side at ExpressJet.
12-13-2016 | 03:42 PM
#4676
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From: Downward Dog
Those 700s you are bringing in for American (previously announced) are Skywest airplanes and horizons before that.
Apply. Get a job. Hope for the best. Move on.
Apply. Get a job. Hope for the best. Move on.
12-13-2016 | 03:48 PM
#4677
Prime Minister/Moderator
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From: Engines Turn or People Swim
This is an Inc doc, not a SKW airlines doc. Primary impact is on XJT.
Likely no real noticeable impact for most at SKW, although eventually a couple of boutique 200 bases might go away. Or not, there's still at-risk and EAS flying out there.
I simply cannot believe that we now fly jets into some EAS towns which used to be over-served by B-1900's. But we do, and SKW isn't losing money on it.
Likely no real noticeable impact for most at SKW, although eventually a couple of boutique 200 bases might go away. Or not, there's still at-risk and EAS flying out there.
I simply cannot believe that we now fly jets into some EAS towns which used to be over-served by B-1900's. But we do, and SKW isn't losing money on it.
12-13-2016 | 03:57 PM
#4678
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From: RJ Captain
Def jumping the gun on the 200 stuff
Guys. The 200 as the news stated is staying, we make a lot of cash off that plane just like we did with the bro till we were forced to retire them. This is actually good news for expressjet , with their attrition and going all dual class as a company they will have a future now
Guys. The 200 as the news stated is staying, we make a lot of cash off that plane just like we did with the bro till we were forced to retire them. This is actually good news for expressjet , with their attrition and going all dual class as a company they will have a future now
I disagree on the ExpressJet stuff though. That represents the loss of 400 pilot positions. It's a real **** sandwich in my opinion. Forget about upgrades, that might even mean downgrades depending on how fast they park the aircraft.
12-13-2016 | 04:23 PM
#4679
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From: 175 CA
How do we have a future? Please explain? Skywest has continued to take our airplanes, our routes that we used to operate, took over our mx in DTW, and will probably soon take over all the flying in DTW as well.
So please tell me how this is good for us on the ASA side at ExpressJet.
So please tell me how this is good for us on the ASA side at ExpressJet.
12-13-2016 | 04:30 PM
#4680
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From: Reclined seat
To bad ExpressJet doesn't have that option. Skywest Inc. dictates where the flying goes, not us. Why do you think we return our planes to the desert, and you guys pick them right up? Why are you flying around those AS tail numbers that we used to fly? What about- the -900's that we were suppose to get, that Skywest took instead? What about the few dual class aircrafts that are registered to us, flown by you?
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