Woah there buddy.... Don't be putting real facts out there to challenge their imaginary reality! You need another glass of this here blue drink

I'm a 2/22 hire...... Start sims 1st week of April. Doubt any of us will be online before end of may??? Anyone heard what the wait is for IOE lately?

I don't know what the wait is right now but I got done with sims last year, had 4 move days, and started IOE 2 days later... Your mileage may vary. From start of ground school to finishing IOE, some guys had a timeline as short as 9 weeks.

It's anyone's guess, really. I had 7 weeks off between ground and sims. Then sims started on the 4th of the month. I had my LOE on the 22nd (yes, a very compressed sim schedule: just 16 days from FTD#1 to LOE, including breaks.) I started IOE the 29th and finished 8 days later (two 3-day trips with 2 days off in between.) So I basically went from start of sims to being online in 31 calendar days. But this was in 2014, so it doesn't have much to do with how things are going now.

That said, my buddy recently transitioned to the 175 and had seven weeks off between sims and IOE. Given that SKW was paying him second-year pay to sit at home, that was surprising. They normally try to get the online guys (i.e. not new hires) through training and online as fast as possible. If there's a wait, it's more likely to be the new hires because you guys are cheaper ;-)

PS Wait a minute...weren't you at Compass? Or somewhere? What happened?

Which is actually backwards math. The people already on property cost more than new hires.

Year 2 pay: $40
Year 1: $30

Paying the guy or gal on year 2 to fly 85 hours a month and the guy or gal on year one 76 guarantee = $5680 per month.

Switch around and you get a cost of $5590. While it's not astronomical it still is cheaper to fly new hires and leave those on property at home making guarantee. It can be quite a bit if you add it up across the number of pilots OO has

Except first year pay is now 36.50

This. If you think you know your profiles, callouts and flows well enough, you're wrong.

PS Wait a minute...weren't you at Compass? Or somewhere? What happened?[/QUOTE]


No this is my first 121 flying. I'm trying to hit the flows , callouts and profiles pretty hard , in hopes that sims won't be the firehose that ground was:(

DVR is being updated as we speak.

I've never understood its usefulness, really. A domicile might show 0 vacancies, but 5 guys quit or transfer out, and you'll get your transfer regardless. Or, vice versa, a domicile might show 5 vacancies but they decide not to let people in, or bypass senior guys for transitions/transfers, and you don't get your transfer.

It's very odd.