As much as I would love to make a comment about how at least our President is more concerned with getting a discount on the Surface when we leave, this issue and all others rests directly on our shoulders. We have voted time and time again that we don't need legal representation and that the company will do what's right without it.

They continually pit the pilot groups against each other and have us fighting each other vs finding unity. They are very good at it and we even have pilots that want to argue about how it's perfectly acceptable for us to get paid 2% less than what every other airlines gets for flying the same routes. Open time in my base looks like the elevator scene from The Shining, but management knows some will pick it up for 15% extra or they will just have a check airman fly it as an FO. The company is very clear with us that they will determine our worth and take what's left over to put gas in the houseboat and pay management bonuses.

Sorry to all those that will be bypassed again this month.

Y'all got hot karl'd!! We're not getting 717's, probably will fly all of the United 737s though as jb mentioned.

In all seriousness, are we still able to fill classes? I read that many places are not, including a younger friend of mine who indicated he was one of a class of 4 for another airline

I believe there are over 60 in the most recent CRJ class that started this past Monday.
If this number starts to thin however, it'll definitely get interesting since it seems recruiting is just barely keeping up with attrition with the pilots that are making it to the line.

Gotcha,it's going to be an interesting year for sure. Hurray continued "insufficient staffing, net reserve -20"

And the reasoning is...?

I'm guessing it's because we don't have enough CRJ FOs, but when have we ever had enough CRJ FOs?

Meanwhile, as more -700s come offline for UA, and more and more of the good flying gets shifted to the 175. The CRJ pilots waiting to transition get shafted. More crap, low credit, 12 hour duty-days on the -200. and SAPA remains mute on the issue. TFAYD!!!

Serious question to this pilot group, when is enough enough? I'm not exactly sure what I mean by that, but more of a rhetorical question. Does anybody see a tipping point in the near future as to when people get ****ed off enough with this crap? (Specifically the blatant seniority violations, PBS "globalization", bare minimum staffing, and forced lines of 90+ hours every month)

Here's the thing about being bypassed: VD actually has to say you're "bypassed" for any of that language to mean anything. No openings in the 175 for current pilots = not officially bypassed.

Which makes sense since there needs to be a actual position available for you to get a class date, you can't just decide you want to transition and boom it happens.

correct. bypassed at any other airline means "someone jr to me got the position I wanted" say I'm a CRJ FO DEN and I bid ERJ FO DEN.

Some ERJ FO ORD guy gets a transfer into DEN. anywhere else that would be breaking seniority and a bypass. here it isn't.

It's only a bypass if someone is bidding the same thing as you.

Example: CRJ FO DEN bidding number 2000 seniority. Bid CRJ CA DEN. Spot opens up, CRJ CA MSP number 2300 gets the spot.
You were not bypassed per skywest rules. Transitions and upgrades take a backseat to transfers. You are only bypassed if someone jr to you got awarded the upgrade. Period. End of Story. "that's the way we've always done it"


That being said, VD did use those exact words with my email. EVERY CRJ FO WILL BE BYPASSED ON THIS ROUND.

The more interesting question is what can we do about it? I am not defending SAPA here but they often seem to have zero leverage. They can make all the proposals they want but if the company says no - it is no.

So we better make sure we use what leverage we have. If they want to open up repo flights for non 121 guys. Maybe it is worth considering if we get something else. I am more worried about SAPA being "too nice" and agreeing to something without getting something meaningful in return.

But I don't even know if the pilot group is aligned of what that something else is.

I have never worked for any other shop. But it seems to be far from perfect with pretty much any other regional judging from some of the other posts on here.