What kind of rate? my class date is Feb 13 so I don't have a base yet but hearing I could get SLC out of training I'd be at least somewhat interested.

 

Are there any other airlines that use Skywest's leather jacket? or is there anywhere pilots leaving sell their Uniform clothing? Thanks

 

What size do you need?

 

Spirit, Southwest, Expressjet, Jetblue, Hawaiian, Envoy, Commutair, Allegiant, Air Wisconsin, Alaska, and a handful of cargo companies use the same leather jacket. If you can't find one on here, then search on the internet for Perrone Leather jacket.

 

I had to call SAPA a few times when I was new and got zero help. One rep was actually cool and went through the PPM with me to find an answer, but in the end I still got what was basically a :shrug: reply with no actual help.

I was given RJ's number and told to call him to ask my question because "he's the guy with the answers". He gave me 2 minutes of his time and told me he didn't know the answer, was aware of the problem and to just call management because they could help me more, which was BS.

After hanging up I looked up more rep numbers and was shocked to find out, the guy I just called was the damn president! (Like I said, I was still very new to the company). I couldn't believe the guy at the top told me the solution to my problem was to contact management and ask for help.

I have no interest in seeing ALPA at a place like SKYW because I don't personally think they could help us, but I do want to see a real, legal union. If SAPA could turn into a real in house union, one that doesn't answer to management, I'd gladly sign over a percentage of my paycheck over for real representation.

 

You don't want ALPA. You just feed money into mainline's war chest.

 

At thr end of the day if alpa got voted in the company would drag out the contract process.. We would be stalled for atleast 5-6 years given past history with regionals.. Plus in the end right now, we have the same of better conditions as others.. Plus we cant even get 49% of our pilots to even vote on anything!!!

 

Aren't these multiple different discussions though?

I am not saying that I am approving or dis-approving RJ in any way. But participation was relatively high at 49% - higher than any other SAPA election I can recall (and comparable to 55.4% in the most recent election for US President).

RJ got 62% of the votes.... to me that is more of a landslide victory that other people have claim for presidential elections recently.

I thought the other candidates had very valid points but this was a clear endorsement for RJ.

Again, that doesn't mean things are perfect at all. And we should keep pushing for improvement but I don't think it can be dismissed as a completely anemic pilot group.

 

SGU has I think been disappointed with how the XJT/ASA things worked out.

They don't want to create a situation where there might be a common carrier petition or SLI because...

1) XJT + ASA + part of the SKW pilot group would probably vote in ALPA.

2) SGU does feel an obligation not to let XJT pilots integrate into SKW with a seniority above any SKW pilot. The only way to do that is by not integrating at all.

 

Someone on the XJT thread on here posted that someone under NDA said they're closing up shop in 2017.