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Old 11-21-2016 | 10:41 AM
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It'll never tell you how long you'll be on reserve for. You can figure out how long it is for someone hired X months ago but that doesn't mean your move up the seniority list will be similar.
Old 11-21-2016 | 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by tcco94
Hate to ask the question that gets asked every few pages here...been reading for awhile and just seeing what people say. Trying to get out what the recruiters say to what I should expect. Going to class Jan 2 on the CRJ. My CTP is Dec 7. I heard I'll get paid the minimum 65 hours and I'll get that check in my ground school, that's correct right?

I want to take a junior base on the CRJ preferably would like to live in MSP. Are the trips any different or QOL going to be drastically different between that or ORD? Also, I'm a cadet that has access to skywest online. I just can't figure out how to calculate the time on reserve like you guys do? I know how to find the vacancy report and senority list for bases but how do you guys figure out how long it is to hold a line? Also, you're saying the time to hold a line is including ground school, sims, IOE? I preferred trying to get DEN or COS but it seems like it might take a long time to hold those bases on the CRJ especially since they're cutting back flying out of DEN, it's a long shot I assume? Will someone help with this when we get into ground school?

Greatly appreciated!
Junior base is relative as to what you are wanting now. Junior as in a makeup of mostly junior pilots is MSP, ORD, DTW. Junior as in when you can hold a line first is FAT, PSP, and SFO.

This info is from pilots I know in these classes...
ORD and MSP 2/16 classes don't have lines yet. 2/16 classes are just starting to get SFO lines. 5/16 class has lines in FAT and PSP. Any time we say time to hold a line we are talking from day 1 of CRJ class.

Trip wise MSP has the worst trips in my opinion. We have the lowest crediting 4-days (70% of our 4-days pay within an hour of min day). Also the MSP is mostly CRJ-200 trips, and they do not flow anywhere. In comparison, ORD has much more 700 trips, and they send you a little more around the country (IAH, DEN, etc). SFO has much more higher paying 4-days, that flow west->east.

Of couse how good a trip is does not equate to QOL. MSP is very liveable, inexpensive, and quick commutes. Neighborhoods by the airport are actually very nice (something you can't say about most places). Living in base short call reserve means you're really just getting paid to sit around. ORD gets you that big city vibe and is still relatively inexpensive. Neighborhoods around the airport are generally not the nicest (Cumberland, etc). Or you can live in downtown Chicago, about an hour by CTA and really enjoy yourself. Both MSP and ORD are liveable on min guarantee and you not working a minute (no per diem) if you budget correctly.

CRJ side has been in a tailslide ever since the beginning of the summer as flying goes down, and ERJ expands. Previous information about minimal reserves, junior bases, and probably what the recruiters experienced is probably invalid currently. Hopefully that helps.
Old 11-21-2016 | 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by tcco94
Sweet, found the PBS page. On MSP it says reserve lines for MSP are 49 FO's on the CRJ. Sounds like a lot. How do you guys see how that equals how long you'll be on reserve for? I don't have access to how to bid and the pairings doc just looks like the schedules that are given out ?
Look at how many targeted line holders. Let's just pretend it's sixty. Look at the seniority list and copy number sixty's employee number down. Go to the employee directory at the top of the page and paste the number in the correct box and search. That will give you a date of hire. This will give you worst case for a guaranteed line. Does not account for senior people bidding reserve, leave, etc. Happy obsessing.
Old 11-21-2016 | 12:42 PM
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Where are 175 new hires getting based out of training?
Old 11-21-2016 | 01:21 PM
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Where are 175 new hires getting based out of training?
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Old 11-21-2016 | 01:30 PM
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West Coast Best Coast I'm crossing my fingers for PDX for reserve in Jan. Looks like SFO now I gather though...
Old 11-21-2016 | 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by word302
Look at how many targeted line holders. Let's just pretend it's sixty. Look at the seniority list and copy number sixty's employee number down. Go to the employee directory at the top of the page and paste the number in the correct box and search. That will give you a date of hire. This will give you worst case for a guaranteed line. Does not account for senior people bidding reserve, leave, etc. Happy obsessing.
haha! Thanks for all the info guys. Even looking at some of those bases that you can hold a line faster like SFO it's only by a month or two, nothing really game changing drastic.

How long does it take to get from ground start date to IOE? About 4 months? So those guys I'm seeing starting Feb that are just getting a line at MSP really is about 5 months on reserve. Can't complain with that I assume?

How much reserve will be on call compared to ready reserve at the airport? I have no complaints with waiting a few months at home and chillin to get my line.
Old 11-21-2016 | 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by AUpilot77
This is certainly news to me. What was the DOH for the most junior DTW lineholder?


I'm 3/28/16 class and still a good 10 short of a line in MSP. I do however have a buddy who was in my same class and transferred to DTW last month and got a composite line.

We are just way overstaffed right now. More flying to accommodate would be nice. Because min pay (training/reserve) for a year is not a happy place.


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Old 11-21-2016 | 05:43 PM
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Is 20% reserve on both airplanes and both seats overstaffed? How about we are properly staffed for the first time since 2013 and guys still can't get time off. Block hours are higher this December than last. We are not far below summer month block hours.

Plugs should see it bodes well that skyw can still hire enough to cover these high block hours and keep the wheels from coming off. Long game>short game.
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Old 11-21-2016 | 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by WesternSkies
Is 20% reserve on both airplanes and both seats overstaffed? How about we are properly staffed for the first time since 2013 and guys still can't get time off. Block hours are higher this December than last. We are not far below summer month block hours.

Plugs should see it bodes well that skyw can still hire enough to cover these high block hours and keep the wheels from coming off. Long game>short game.
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Haha! What's wrong with the MSP line flying? Just the routes and aircraft suck?
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