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Majerus 01-30-2017 07:28 PM


Originally Posted by 93Sierra (Post 2291551)
Hi guys sorry to keep asking questions... I was told by the nice lady at the recruitment event that I attended and interviewed at, and by someone on this forum, that the ATP- CTP course was paid for ( which is true ) but I was also led to believe that I would be paid during this time frame. I was led to believe that I would be paid from the recruitment department, and from some of *your* responses on this forum. However, when I asked the guy in charge of my ATP-CTP course he informed me that I would be paid starting my ground school in indoc. If that is the case, I screwed up royally in quitting my part 91 job. I am just trying to plan put some things finically for my family, not trying to make waves. Anybody have any input? Thank you.

unless something has changed very recently you will be paid in CTP. There might be a decent chance whomever was in charge of you CTP course could of been mistaken.

Majerus 01-30-2017 07:32 PM


Originally Posted by word302 (Post 2291318)
Math? We continue to grow the ERJ fleet. It really isn't that hard to figure out. Yes, senior guys continue to transition over, but you will reach a point when the majority of those guys have already made the jump. We also have more and more guys who thought they were lifers make the jump to the legacies. The ERJ upgrade actually dropped below the CRJ for a short time a year or so ago. It's really a simple numbers game.

I doubt its math, If we don't sign more 175 contracts soon I think you are wrong.

the reason it dropped below the CRJ a year ago was because we didn't have the Delta contract yet and you would of had to go to ORD to upgrade on the 175.

VrefPlus5 01-30-2017 07:55 PM


Originally Posted by Tippy (Post 2291544)
I'm nearing end of my first year and my checks average about 1450 after taxes including per diem. I hold a line and have never picked up anything extra.

Thanks! Just curious, which aircraft/base do you have?

word302 01-30-2017 08:35 PM


Originally Posted by Majerus (Post 2291558)
I doubt its math, If we don't sign more 175 contracts soon I think you are wrong.

the reason it dropped below the CRJ a year ago was because we didn't have the Delta contract yet and you would of had to go to ORD to upgrade on the 175.

My bet is the CRJ upgrade settles right in around 2 years and the ERJ comes down to around 2 1/2. All this just based on trends, aircraft deliveries, and some WAG.

Tippy 01-30-2017 08:59 PM


Originally Posted by VrefPlus5 (Post 2291564)
Thanks! Just curious, which aircraft/base do you have?

SFO CRJ, but things can change in a week.

tcco94 01-30-2017 09:20 PM


Originally Posted by Majerus (Post 2291555)
unless something has changed very recently you will be paid in CTP. There might be a decent chance whomever was in charge of you CTP course could of been mistaken.

Nope you aren't paid in CTP. You get your first paycheck after the first payroll period AFTER you begin ground. You'll be back logged for the hours.

Here's how my situation worked.

CTP Dec 7th
Ground Jan 2nd
Paycheck after Jan 15 payroll period with a total of like 88 hours or something. Didn't get my paycheck until Jan 20th...but I did have a long break from CTP to ground.

I know it was the same for a few classes ahead of me as well. Not sure why...I just assumed it was so people didn't get the CTP certificate then leave with a nice small check.

AUpilot77 01-30-2017 11:32 PM


Originally Posted by tcco94 (Post 2291592)
Nope you aren't paid in CTP. You get your first paycheck after the first payroll period AFTER you begin ground. You'll be back logged for the hours.

Here's how my situation worked.

CTP Dec 7th
Ground Jan 2nd
Paycheck after Jan 15 payroll period with a total of like 88 hours or something. Didn't get my paycheck until Jan 20th...but I did have a long break from CTP to ground.

I know it was the same for a few classes ahead of me as well. Not sure why...I just assumed it was so people didn't get the CTP certificate then leave with a nice small check.

I suppose the answer that people are looking for is that you are accruing paid time during CTP, but you don't get your actual check until after you start your official ground school, and it's lumped in with what you're earning during indoc/systems etc.

Rocksteady 01-31-2017 03:43 AM


Originally Posted by 93Sierra (Post 2291551)
Hi guys sorry to keep asking questions... I was told by the nice lady at the recruitment event that I attended and interviewed at, and by someone on this forum, that the ATP- CTP course was paid for ( which is true ) but I was also led to believe that I would be paid during this time frame. I was led to believe that I would be paid from the recruitment department, and from some of *your* responses on this forum. However, when I asked the guy in charge of my ATP-CTP course he informed me that I would be paid starting my ground school in indoc. If that is the case, I screwed up royally in quitting my part 91 job. I am just trying to plan put some things finically for my family, not trying to make waves. Anybody have any input? Thank you.

He probably meant you don't get your first paycheck till ground, which is true, but that check is a big one which includes CTP....if I remember correctly, from CTP on you start getting training guarantee unless there is greater than 3 weeks between CTP and when you start ground

Squallrider 01-31-2017 04:07 AM

You do get paid for CTP it just depends on where you fall in the pay cycle as to when. SkyWest has the money to properly pay crews for work.

rickair7777 01-31-2017 05:14 AM


Originally Posted by 93Sierra (Post 2291551)
Hi guys sorry to keep asking questions... I was told by the nice lady at the recruitment event that I attended and interviewed at, and by someone on this forum, that the ATP- CTP course was paid for ( which is true ) but I was also led to believe that I would be paid during this time frame. I was led to believe that I would be paid from the recruitment department, and from some of *your* responses on this forum. However, when I asked the guy in charge of my ATP-CTP course he informed me that I would be paid starting my ground school in indoc. If that is the case, I screwed up royally in quitting my part 91 job. I am just trying to plan put some things finically for my family, not trying to make waves. Anybody have any input? Thank you.


Entry-level 121 aviation (ie regional FO) is not, and has never been, a "real Job" from a compensation perspective. It's more like a paid internship. The pay is much higher than it was ten years ago (so is COL), but it's still more stipend than real compensation.

It's not going to allow a grown adult with family to live a normal life (unless you're in a really low COL localation). You must have a plan for that...sugar-momma, retirement from mil/LE, trust fund, ramen, mom's basement, living-in-a-van-down-by-the-river, etc.


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