Originally Posted by Blackwing (Post 2295528)

Two separate issues here, ignoring the bonus for now.

Since the company exercised its right to raise 1st year pay to $ 36.50/hr, the year 1 to year 2 bump is the smallest that it's ever been. Always used to be a pretty good raise. Now, it's only $1.21/ hr (base rate).

Originally Posted by Electra (Post 2295340)

A few reasons: the bases have fleshed out and schedules have stabilized so there are more options for commuters. Also, as the 700's for UAL have disappeared, there are many senior people who feel that the 200 and its schedules are beneath them so they're choosing the big comfy new plane. Finally, since SEA/LAX/SFO get DL benefits there is no loss for those making the switch on the west coast.

UAL and AK deliveries are done end of Q2, and those classes have pretty much already been awarded for that staffing. All that's left is DL. ORD got 22 awards with 14 posted on the DVR, which tells me they got an extra plane allotted instead of sending it west to DEN or the coast. Every credible rumor is that classes will slow way down after spring except for maybe a handful of small ones for attrition. With the exception of ORD I expect to see 175 CA go much more senior from here on out.

Originally Posted by Squallrider (Post 2295551)

So you're saying first year pay should be lower so there's a bigger bump? :p year to year it goes up $2 or so along all Years so pretty consistent.

Originally Posted by WesternSkies (Post 2295608)

Well moment of truth, IF you were here at the time, did you vote yes to the pay package?

Originally Posted by Squallrider (Post 2295368)

No slowing down, not sure where you heard that but it's wrong. look at all the recruiting events in next few months.

Originally Posted by Blackwing (Post 2295758)

No, I'm saying that pay for 2nd and subsequent years should be higher. Before the company exercised their option, the year 1 to year 2 gap was $7.71/hr. Previous to the current pay scales, that gap was about $13/hr ($24/hr vs $37.15/hr).

1st year pay has increased more than 50% in the past 18 months while subsequent years have seen token increases that haven't even kept pace with inflation.




I wasn't, but would've voted no. The raises to year 2 onward were pretty insulting, irrespective of gains elsewhere. The current package was all about the profit sharing, and magically, those profits have vanished, according to the earnings call.

Originally Posted by Electra (Post 2295887)

Context is so important. My response was directed specifically to the question as to why CAPTAIN positions on the WEST COAST are suddenly going so senior. Take a gander at the standing bid list if you doubt it. FO SEA can be had all day long by newhires as evidenced by the last bid awards.

And yes, 175 upgrade will most definitely slow down once we have all the planes on property, as by definition the growth there will be done. AND a large portion of the Captain positions in the more senior bases (not ORD) are lifers. The math there isn't really difficult.

Originally Posted by Utah (Post 2295897)

The bonus payouts aren't based off Inc's numbers. It sounds like some might not know that.

Originally Posted by Jvw700 (Post 2295900)

How did SkyWest airlines actually do last quarter?

Originally Posted by Jvw700 (Post 2295888)

So you weren't here for the vote but obviously benefited from that big first year pay increase did you not? Hearing new hires complain about their pay when it's the highest it's ever been is a little "insulting" if you ask me!