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Old 04-12-2017 | 10:06 AM
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OO flys PDX-DFW...
Old 04-12-2017 | 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by hotbreeze
Dallas does not allow the same 121 airline operate out of both DFW and DAL. For Delta, they needed to have one of their regional partners fly into DAL (and stop flying into DFW) while the mainline and the rest of the regionals flew into DFW.

Since Virgin operates out of DAL and Alaska out of DFW, there will need to be adjustments if and when they merge into a single 121 certificate.
We used to fly IAH-DFW and IAH-DAL up until a few years ago.
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Originally Posted by uvuflier
We used to fly IAH-DFW and IAH-DAL up until a few years ago.
Under the old legislation, DAL was limited to Texas, its adjacent states, Missouri, Kansas, Mississippi. Anything outside those states could be flown in an airplane with 50 seats or less. Delta started service to ATL with the CRJ200 under that legislation and continued flights on that route now.

Under the new legislation, it is limited by 121 certificate. Virgin has a contract for 2 gates at DAL and makes less than ideal use of them. DAL is also gate limited by the legislation and no gates can be physically added. SWA has the rest of the gates and shares one gate with Delta.

My suspicion is, given the legislation, that this has not been thought out. I can guarantee that SWA will legally challenge OO flying into both. (We do have more than one 121 certificates, so maybe that is how we plan to do it).

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Old 04-12-2017 | 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by amcnd
OO flys PDX-DFW...
OO flies DFW-PDX, DFW-SFO, DFW-LAX, and DFW-ORD with E175s. OO also flies DFW-ASE and DFW-DEN with the CRJ seasonally.
Old 04-12-2017 | 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by hotbreeze
Under the old legislation, DAL was limited to Texas, its adjacent states, Missouri, Kansas, Mississippi. Anything outside those states could be flown in an airplane with 50 seats or less. Delta started service to ATL with the CRJ200 under that legislation and continued flights on that route now.

Under the new legislation, it is limited by 121 certificate. Virgin has a contract for 2 gates at DAL and makes less than ideal use of them. DAL is also gate limited by the legislation and no gates can be physically added. SWA has the rest of the gates and shares one gate with Delta.

My suspicion is, given the legislation, that this has not been thought out. I can guarantee all the airlines at DFW (or at least SWA) will legally challenge OO flying into both.
Interesting. Can you direct me to the legislation?
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Originally Posted by hotbreeze
OO flies DFW-PDX, DFW-SFO, DFW-LAX, and DFW-ORD with E175s. OO also flies DFW-ASE and DFW-DEN with the CRJ seasonally.
Was talking about for Alaska airlines
Old 04-12-2017 | 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by uvuflier
Interesting. Can you direct me to the legislation?
I am still looking for the direct legislation. Here is a link that outlined the agreement that was sent to Congress by the cities of Dallas and Fort Worth. This agreement was passed by Congress.

Who Won In The Wright Amendment Compromise? | Aero-News Network
Old 04-12-2017 | 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by uvuflier
Interesting. Can you direct me to the legislation?
https://www.congress.gov/congression...use-report/600
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Thanks! I'll take a look at it.
Old 04-12-2017 | 12:24 PM
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Thanks! I'll take a look at it.
I was looking this over. This legislation simply amends the 1979 Wright Amendment, which restricts an air carrier to DFW or DAL. Based on air carrier's actions, they have all either given up their operations to be at DAL or vice versa.

It will be interesting how both SWA and AA react to this since it opens up more competition from DAL.
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