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Old 04-09-2017 | 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by hotbreeze

My recommendation for ASA/Xjet pilots is simple, and in this order: 1) jump to the majors 2) move to SKW and be at the bottom (rumors a CA based in DTW did that for QOL and made CA here within a year) 3) leave to another regional if you can't stomach SKW 4) wait and just continue to be unhappy.
1. Yea because that's just so easy. Wake up
2. Not going to happen unless they live in a Skywest base and/or have no respect for themselves
3. Most likely scenario. Go somewhere that offers a bonus and career advancement not just lies and empty promises.
4. Another possibility... many will enjoy watching this place burn and not even consider ****ing on the flames until it's no longer worth it for them. Most guys here have their lines in the sand already and are just waiting for the tide to come in.
Old 04-09-2017 | 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by SkipperBaloo
1. Yea because that's just so easy. Wake up
2. Not going to happen unless they live in a Skywest base and/or have no respect for themselves
3. Most likely scenario. Go somewhere that offers a bonus and career advancement not just lies and empty promises.
4. Another possibility... many will enjoy watching this place burn and not even consider ****ing on the flames until it's no longer worth it for them. Most guys here have their lines in the sand already and are just waiting for the tide to come in.
If you look at the attrition predicted for the majors, #1 should be viable for any pilot who doesn't come off like a jerk and has sufficient tpic, assuming Congress doesn't raise the retirement age. SKW is bleeding pilots to Delta and Southwest.

As far as #2, aren't all ASA/Xjet bases eventually going to become SKW bases if you wait long enough? That seems to be a combination of #4 and #2.

And for #3, it is clear there is no FO advancement at ASA/Xjet, with CAs flying the right seat because of a shortage of FOs. The situation seems dire.

I have no clue why you are not doing #3 already. TransStates and Mesa both promise a 16 month upgrade or allow street captains. Plenty of other bonus programs out there. If I was flying a ERJ145 or a CRJ with dim prospects, both of those look like reasonable programs.
Old 04-09-2017 | 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by hotbreeze
Go CRJ. You won't be on reserve. Commuting to Detroit on the other hand won't be great.

Go ERJ. And, you will be commuting to SFO out of IOE or shortly afterwards. But, on reserve.

Where are you trying to be based? Are you trying to remain in SMF? That doesn't sound like a good plan.
Plenty of guys based in LAX and SFO that live in SMF.
Old 04-09-2017 | 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by hotbreeze
If you look at the attrition predicted for the majors, #1 should be viable for any pilot who doesn't come off like a jerk and has sufficient tpic, assuming Congress doesn't raise the retirement age. SKW is bleeding pilots to Delta and Southwest.

As far as #2, aren't all ASA/Xjet bases eventually going to become SKW bases if you wait long enough? That seems to be a combination of #4 and #2.

And for #3, it is clear there is no FO advancement at ASA/Xjet, with CAs flying the right seat because of a shortage of FOs. The situation seems dire.

I have no clue why you are not doing #3 already. TransStates and Mesa both promise a 16 month upgrade or allow street captains. Plenty of other bonus programs out there. If I was flying a ERJ145 or a CRJ with dim prospects, both of those look like reasonable programs.
Lol. Mesa and TSA? You've got to be kidding. Both places are dumpster fires. One more than the other.
Old 04-09-2017 | 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by word302
Lol. Mesa and TSA? You've got to be kidding. Both places are dumpster fires. One more than the other.
"16 month upgrades" lol. Does he know what we just hit? Going to Mesa for the "fast upgrade" is no longer a legitimate reason.
Old 04-10-2017 | 03:49 AM
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Originally Posted by word302
Plenty of guys based in LAX and SFO that live in SMF.
Yep, if he wanted to be based in LAX or SFO and goes with the E175, he should be fine. Kinda of a pain to commute, but I am doing it.
Old 04-10-2017 | 03:51 AM
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Originally Posted by word302
Lol. Mesa and TSA? You've got to be kidding. Both places are dumpster fires. One more than the other.
They sound like perfect places for an unhappy ASA/Xjet pilot. GoJets might even be better.

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Old 04-10-2017 | 04:26 AM
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Originally Posted by hawk21
"16 month upgrades" lol. Does he know what we just hit? Going to Mesa for the "fast upgrade" is no longer a legitimate reason.
I am aware of one happy former DTW Xjet captain. For now, a one off. We may see more like him. HR is not even acknowledging his upgrade. As of a few days ago, HR officially shows a 21 month upgrade on the pilot recruiting webpage, down from 23 months.
Old 04-10-2017 | 05:26 AM
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Does anyone know what the SkyWest background checks involve these days? I have heard it used to be (or maybe still is) just reference checks and 10 year crim history - which shouldn't take them too long I wouldn't think. But I have been waiting for mine to be completed for quite some time now so just curious if there are now additional steps going on. Further, can anyone tell me if they had to wait til they started training for checks to be complete? I have nothing to hide but I still feel uneasy resigning from my current job without knowing for certain they are 100% happy with everything.

Thanks guys!

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Old 04-10-2017 | 05:51 AM
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Thanks for the info hotbreeze. How long did it take you to hold a line out of LAX or SFO? Are you driving to SFO or flying to LAX from SMF?
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