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Great comradery guys...

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Is Karl even a SkyWest pilot? 737?

 

Not sure i ran into one. He was a Captain here. Left to finish school and came back. He is on 10th year FO pay and will upgrade this summer back on 10th year Caltain pay. Guess that gamble paid off. If i see him again i will ask about the health care..

 

That is great that we have that policy. Never say that some kind of unwarranted $*** can't happen to you, because if it does, you'll be begging to have your former job and a steady paycheck back.

 

If the intent was to "make it work", they would have never forced us into money losing CPAs, that are still dogging us to this day. There never was any intent to make it work, they tried their hand at the whipsaw game, we responded with an overwhelming NO, and lost our collective rear end in the process. I'd say that nearly all of the crews I fly with at ExpressJet don't despise the airline at all, we despise the holding company. Inc is not an airline, they're a holding company. Our beef is with them, not the other side of the house.

On a side note, I had a new hire SkyWest FO on my jumpseat not too long ago, who spent about 30 minutes droning on about how we should be thankful to SkyWest Airlines for saving us back in 2009. We had a great chat afterwards, about how everything is really set up. Not sure what they're putting in the Kool-Aid during indoc over there, but someone needs to reign in the misinformation.

Ideally, I'd love to see XJT decertify ALPA, and join our SkyWest brothers and sisters in our own real union. Not some student council, not some corrupt national organization... But something that gives both our pilot groups some teeth to sink into Inc. Pipe dream, I know.

Anyway, this will be my last post on this matter. To the fine folks at SkyWest, keep fighting the good fight... We have your back. And, F-Inc for tearing to shreds two awesome airlines in ASA and XJT.

 

Pretty sure any information about ASA/XJT is not coming from the schoolhouse.

 

Agreed, there wasn't a bad thing mentioned at the schoolhouse. As always, there is ASA/Xjet info (or misinfo) floating around once you get to the line - particularly after you run into one of the ASA/Xjet pilots who are complaining and you start asking other SKW pilots why that is the case. I have no clue what happened in 2009 and whether Inc. saved ASA/Xjet or not.

I just know that I wouldn't go to work for ASA/Xjet based on today's facts. As someone who loves being a pilot, that is a major omen in whether ASA/Xjet is around for the long term.

 

Same here, not a word on XJT. AboveMins is right, we are all in this fecal show together. All regional pilots are being played against one another. Hopefully ever less warm bodies show up so that all the flying can go back to mainline. Pipe dream, I know....

 

I am a new hire just finishing up LOE (sim checkride) tomorrow on the 175. Expect to get ORD first. I have heard of nothing else from any other class in the vicinity of ours. It appears they stockpile pilots at ORD (don't know why). I have gained about 110 seniority numbers in 6 weeks since starting at the school house. IOE (line check) is about 3-4 week wait after LOE and we are told it will take about 3-4 weeks. So by the time all is said and done and you are sitting reserve in ORD it is likely to be about 3 months since your class start date. If attrition keeps at this pace and I gain another 110 seniority numbers in the next 6 weeks, I will be about 100 away from the most Jr. guy at LAX. So I think I can conservatively say I will have to sit reserve in ORD 1-2 months before I can hold LAX. SFO looks to be a bit more Jr. than LAX and SEA a bit more senior. But not bad. Obviously that is all assuming attrition remains constant.

Rumors floating around the school house, hiring is slated to slow over the summer and they are moving the DEN 175 sims to the new building which will slow the pace of training there.

If you need the gouge PM me.

 

"If the intent was to "make it work", they would have never forced us into money losing CPAs, that are still dogging us to this day. "

So they signed a bad contract where they have lost money for a decade while you an employee have made money for a decade?

Why would any business continue this arrangement?