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Old 05-25-2017 | 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Blackwing
Just gonna leave this here.



Even with the type bonus and the boost to $36.50/hr, I didn't come close to $61k. More like half that.
But you didn't have to fly around a beater, MELed to the Moon and back airplane, with hostile management threatening to tell the legacy airlines how terrible of an employee you were for not picking up open time in your days off.

I agree pay needs to go up, but with Mesa I would not believe it's worth that money. They have their Captain's sign a training contract. So first a new hire signs one training contract, then in upgrade they sign another to prevent them from leaving.
Old 05-26-2017 | 12:46 AM
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You don't consider working 90+ day after day with no reserves to drop as working overtime?

For straight pay no less....

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Old 05-26-2017 | 04:22 AM
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Originally Posted by elmetal
You don't consider working 90+ day after day with no reserves to drop as working overtime?

For straight pay no less....

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Yup I want to see premium pay.
Old 05-26-2017 | 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by elmetal
You don't consider working 90+ day after day with no reserves to drop as working overtime?

For straight pay no less....

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No.

Working overtime means doing extra. If you can't drop awarded flying you are not flying over time. On the other hand if you're flying your awarded line and picking up trips at straight pay then you are doing overtime.

Now what you really mean is wouldn't it be nice to be able to drop. Yes. But sometimes you just have to get workitis if you can't drop.
Old 05-26-2017 | 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by hawk21
Yup I want to see premium pay.
Premium pay, or straight pay rates increase.
Old 05-26-2017 | 02:59 PM
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Oh I see. So when almost every airline in the USA flies 75-85 hours and we fly 90+ awarded we're not working overtime. Got it.

It's forced overtime, but it's overtime.
Lots of carriers with what is considered forced overtime have some sort of override for credit over x amount, making it effectively overtime.

Don't fight it, don't be a company apologist. It's forced overtime.


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Old 05-26-2017 | 03:14 PM
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Im not gonna jump to conclusions about this package until I physically read it, i will say however i am very disappointed that there was literally ZERO communications from SAPA! Not even so much as a email that they are taking place, let alone input from the pilot group. This leads me believe that its not going to be up par with what we are looking for. I understand we cant have everything but this lack of communication isnt going to get us nearly what we deserve. We all know who they are working for...

(edit: okay maybe I am jumping to conclusions a little!)
Old 05-26-2017 | 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Tippy
Im not gonna jump to conclusions about this package until I physically read it, i will say however i am very disappointed that there was literally ZERO communications from SAPA! Not even so much as a email that they are taking place, let alone input from the pilot group. This leads me believe that its not going to be up par with what we are looking for. I understand we cant have everything but this lack of communication isnt going to get us nearly what we deserve. We all know who they are working for...

(edit: okay maybe I am jumping to conclusions a little!)
Ya. You did. I get it. Its not as "involved" around here. But if you keep your ear to the wall you could see what has been going on..
Old 05-26-2017 | 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by amcnd
Ya. You did. I get it. Its not as "involved" around here. But if you keep your ear to the wall you could see what has been going on..
And you don't find anything wrong with that? I'm not the only one either. If one has to go hunting for information that's not exactly transparent. It is done intentionally.
Old 05-27-2017 | 03:03 PM
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maybe new base for skywest in SAN?

Alaska website states more flying out of SAN and LAX. on the E175, Horizon air not geting any of the flying?

https://newsroom.alaskaair.com/2017-...-and-San-Diego


what are your thoughts about this new flying south of the Rio Grand?
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