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Old 12-23-2017 | 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Flogger
Reps?
Vote?
Do you people really believe you have some form of representation?

OMG!

Crack me up!
That's awesome. I see the "contract" word get thrown around quite a bit too. If Skywest decides to violate the so called 'handbook' there isn't anything the pilots can do. When push comes to shove that's when things will get interesting.
Old 12-24-2017 | 02:52 AM
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Originally Posted by WesternSkies
Everybody has their own opinion and that is fine, but I don’t care how a rep votes. I care if or if not a rep votes to send the package to the pilot group AND what was or was not in said package.

That said, I’ve heard a couple of reps announce publically that they voted no which is contrary to what I’ve read here.

Yes some reps voted no. After voting yes to send the package to the pilots. Two different things.

At least one was hoping for a resounding defeat at the hands of the pilots, to send a message. Obviously that didn't work out.
Old 12-24-2017 | 02:55 AM
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Originally Posted by MidnightHauler
Many new hires voted no.
Of course some did, although they were probably of the 10-11 month variety. There's a reason NOBODY else lets new hires vote. You need to walk in someones shoes before you can make decisions on their behalf, newhires are still trying to wash off the koolaid marinade.
Old 12-24-2017 | 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Mercyful Fate
If you have been gone from OO for quite some time, how is it you seem to have all this information and opinions on things?
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Old 12-24-2017 | 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by DirkDiggler
That's awesome. I see the "contract" word get thrown around quite a bit too. If Skywest decides to violate the so called 'handbook' there isn't anything the pilots can do. When push comes to shove that's when things will get interesting.
Or your union shop just has you gripe it and fly it. Or your union shop just declares bankruptcy and erases your "Contract." In the end we all get screwed. Merry Christmas!
Old 12-24-2017 | 09:43 AM
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Or your union shop just has you gripe it and fly it. Or your union shop just declares bankruptcy and erases your "Contract." In the end we all get screwed. Merry Christmas!
Great anology for not wanting to better yourself or the industry. You all had the perfect opportunity to stand up and fight to be paid like a professional airline pilot like the rest of the industry is doing. But instead you vote in paltry yearly increases starting at 2% then 1% for the next 4 years. Thanks for raising the bar.
Old 12-24-2017 | 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by gojo
Great anology for not wanting to better yourself or the industry. You all had the perfect opportunity to stand up and fight to be paid like a professional airline pilot like the rest of the industry is doing. But instead you vote in paltry yearly increases starting at 2% then 1% for the next 4 years. Thanks for raising the bar.


I voted NO but.... I’m tired of people saying 1%. If we want to be technical, the hourly went up 1% but after the pilot profit sharing is thrown in there I saw about an additional $5 per hour. So on my hourly rate that’s about 11% from this years PPS.

Don’t shoot the messenger....


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Old 12-24-2017 | 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by gojo
Great anology for not wanting to better yourself or the industry. You all had the perfect opportunity to stand up and fight to be paid like a professional airline pilot like the rest of the industry is doing. But instead you vote in paltry yearly increases starting at 2% then 1% for the next 4 years. Thanks for raising the bar.
Your paycheck says Delta right?

Joking aside how many times do you want to hear those of us who voted no say “thanks” for raising the bar?

Legit, doesn’t it get old coming into the OO forums and writing the same thing time and time again? The “majority” of us get it, 9E is great today. Maybe get some West Coast bases and more peeps from OO and the other West Coast airlines will make the jump.

Happy Holidays and TFAYD.
Old 12-24-2017 | 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by WaterRooster
Or your union shop just has you gripe it and fly it. Or your union shop just declares bankruptcy and erases your "Contract." In the end we all get screwed. Merry Christmas!
At least we have something to get erased. A union shop has a legally enforceable contract that can be brought to court for dispute resolution if other methods fail. With a 'handbook' or policy manual, there is no legal channel you can take except stomping your feet. If things got real bad, your only recourse would be to find individual pilots who were harmed, get them to sue and then take that lawsuit and elect it as a class action. Oh and of course pass a hat around to pay for legal fees. After all, a management funded SAPA surely will not litigate against the company.
Old 12-24-2017 | 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by gojo
Great anology for not wanting to better yourself or the industry. You all had the perfect opportunity to stand up and fight to be paid like a professional airline pilot like the rest of the industry is doing. But instead you vote in paltry yearly increases starting at 2% then 1% for the next 4 years. Thanks for raising the bar.
Man... if I only Voted yes.... Or if I'm not actively trying for a union.... Man you sure hit that nail on the head! Can you tell me how I should have done things again?
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