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Old 12-28-2017 | 05:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Mercyful Fate
Aaaaaaaand, you have been at SkyWest how long?
Longer then you?
Old 12-28-2017 | 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by word302
I don't think that's Rick's point at all. I think his point is you can scream and stomp your feet all you want. This pilot group will never get it.
We almost did get it..... 46% of us knew the obvious thing to do. 5% isn't that much. We needed about 100 more no voters
Old 12-28-2017 | 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Check Complete
I think it's great that you continue your quest to invoke ignorance and apathy amongst what will be a huge pilot group. No sense in having 4500 pilots working with 50,00 other pilots to make our craft strong.

Plus it's just a few bucks here and there.....

(next month block v credit -$918.32)
I'm just stating facts as I see them, not invoking anything. Personally I had hoped to have a realistic option to stay at SKW, for QOL. But ultimately , after almost 15 years, QOL for mid/senior CAs dropped below legacy new hire QOL.

Staying and fighting a very long uphill battle didn't make sense at that point. And success might endanger the long term prospects of the company, ie COMAIR. Nature of the beast. If you want to fight hard for solid gains and then enjoy them for the rest of your career, do it at a major. At least there your daily efforts directly impact your long term stability and compensation.

I voted yes ten years ago, not because there was an obvious need for a union, but to prevent what ultimately happened, a gradual and unilateral erosion of pay and, especially, QOL.
Old 12-28-2017 | 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Mooneycfi
We almost did get it..... 46% of us knew the obvious thing to do. 5% isn't that much. We needed about 100 more no voters
Which would get you what? A warned over revised offer, which would give something, while making up for it by taking something else away?
Old 12-28-2017 | 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Check Complete
I am.

Voted yes Teamsters.
Than you're in the same boat I was, only more so.
Old 12-28-2017 | 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Mooneycfi
We almost did get it..... 46% of us knew the obvious thing to do. 5% isn't that much. We needed about 100 more no voters
The point is something like 2500 people thought that was a good deal. When jp left, the majority (of those who bothered to vote) thought rj would make a good president. History just keeps repeating itself here.
Old 12-28-2017 | 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by word302
The point is something like 2500 people thought that was a good deal. When jp left, the majority (of those who bothered to vote) thought rj would make a good president. History just keeps repeating itself here.
Whoever thought he would be a good prez was delusional or didn't know him well. I disagreed with JP quite a bit, but at least he was sane.
Old 12-28-2017 | 08:19 AM
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Triggered much? If you are so unhappy here, I hear Mesa is hiring. Just saying...
Not me. But I certainly Triggered you with your comment to move. Why would I move? But maybe you’re right. With so many koolaid drinkers like yourself willing to work for less and not lift a finger, it’s a lost cause. I hate mediocrity
Old 12-28-2017 | 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by velosnow
Whoever thought he would be a good prez was delusional or didn't know him well. I disagreed with JP quite a bit, but at least he was sane.
I liked that MM was hated by our management, that showed he was working for the pilot group.

Management literally went to the hanger and crew lounges to campaign for JP, that's how much they wanted MM out! JP was pretty good but his business mind sometimes made him sympathetic to company wishes.

Management loves our current pres.
Never flies, not current.
Gets paid 110 hours a month, can't remember the last time I heard anything from him, doesn't participate on the SAPA forums.
Old 12-28-2017 | 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Check Complete
I liked that MM was hated by our management, that showed he was working for the pilot group.
Yep, enjoyed working with him - when I initially joined SAPA there were some interesting times as their was basically an internal revolt and some guys were going after MM. It was ugly but MM was resolute.

JP was pretty good but his business mind sometimes made him sympathetic to company wishes.
Yep and that is where we disagreed, but he could support other positions that he personally disagreed with which earned my respect.

Management loves our current pres.
Never flies, not current.
Gets paid 110 hours a month, can't remember the last time I heard anything from him, doesn't participate on the SAPA forums.
No surprise there
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