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12-28-2017 | 12:01 PM

#9821

Mooneycfi

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Originally Posted by rickair7777

Which would get you what? A warned over revised offer, which would give something, while making up for it by taking something else away?

It would have given us time to look at Endeavor's TA. Most yes voters didn't believe 9e would pass those hourly rates. Had we said no, I'd at least expect a revised TA of 2-3% increase per year to keep up with inflation (still way less than endeavor rates). We also could have had anything awarded more than 90 hours of credit a month at 150% (this concept was mentioned in an email late summer but the wording made it sound like overtime pickup would be less than it is now).

We passed the low ball offer. I don't think they would have just changed the numbers around to please a different proportion of the pilot base. At least not with Endeavors TA passing.

Based on who I've talked to, its been the UND and riddle grads who voted yes to the TA. Or at least they are the ones who are vocal about it.

12-28-2017 | 12:21 PM

#9822

amcnd

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We have 42 aircraft coming in 2018. If the company can’t attract pilots they will revisit pay... and ive heard rumblings of that happening now.. will see.. With corporate tax going down they will have more money to throw at us...

12-28-2017 | 04:52 PM

#9823

Caution Terrain

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From: PLEASE ADVISE

I also remember the vague lies everyone was spreading about all these hot new CRJ-900 models coming down the pipeline. It was a trap you guys. They got us 10 years ago. They got us 2 years ago. They will get us again.

12-28-2017 | 04:59 PM

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Any word on a New York base?

Any more talk about increased flying in Phoenix?

12-28-2017 | 05:24 PM

#9825

gojo

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Originally Posted by amcnd

Of course they will. And meanwhile they’ll be smiling like the grinch at Christmas because of all the extra money they made off you guys in the meantime. Hopefully they’ll send you all a turkey certificate or something along with a extra large serving of your favorite koolaid

12-28-2017 | 06:40 PM

#9826

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Originally Posted by rcreager

Any word on a New York base?

Any more talk about increased flying in Phoenix?

No and no.

12-28-2017 | 06:51 PM

#9827

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Ha phx increase?! Mesa has actually grown in PHX and with Compass opening the domicile there for delta, wait and see the eagle flow from lax, and eventually grow. We even lost a few standups over the last few months to Mesa, and we know
The company has a hard on for those

12-28-2017 | 07:46 PM

#9828

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Originally Posted by amcnd

Wrong!

The new pay package has a provision that first year pay can be changed at will by management. So no, management doesn't have do anything for the pilots here and can laugh in our faces that this package was voted in, as they should.

Thank you SAPA!

Thank you nutless pilot majority.