Anybody know how class sizes are doing on both fleet types? I had a friend who interviewed and was given a class date only to go somewhere else recently. If the cadet pipeline is full, and class numbers stay ok, is there any hope of anything changing? I was based back east and recently was awarded a west coast base and the moral seems to be the same. People mad at pbs, mad at quality of life, working an insane amount, reflows,and embarrassed when comparing our pathetic aggrement to the 9e and Rah contracts. If this is supposed to be a slower month, coupled with the email a few weeks ago saying "with lower block hours people will have more time off...", and then the email begging us crj pilots to work on days off due to critical staffing needs, are we screwed when spring comes and then the busy summer season? Our competition and cancel numbers have been pretty bad lately. Just hoping that somehow something will change for the better. Haven't heard any rumors

 

Wouldn’t say 18 clx yesterday was high.. that may be high for a smaller airline. But we average 1800-2300 flights a day.. classes are full... only thing to help what your saying is full classes and moderate attrition... our list continues to grow. 4600 pilots as of today.

 

I've seen the opposite. I've been on both aircraft and a multitude of bases. As a sweeping generalization- West coast ERJ? Life is pretty good. Midwest CRJ? Not so much... Quality of trips, legs per day, soft pay, adequate reserve staffing, ability to drop or trade, etc. is SO different from LAX ERJ to DTW CRJ. Almost like a different airline altogether.

 

Totally agree. Such different lifestyles between a ERJ guy vs a CRJ guy. Really depends on what your end goal is, and what you want lifestyle wise your first 3 years here.. the ERJ heading east (NYC) should be interesting.. but the West Coast guys have it good. I see were doing SEA-MCI for DL. Another 8hr local...??..

 

This exactly! I started CRJ Midwest now am ERJ west coast and it is like two different airlines! Someone said it earlier our plethora of west coast bases is a big reason why we keep filling classes. Its like a carrot for new hires, put in your dues out east and maybe someday ill be back home. It took me two years of hell but now am finally happy again. But I think it will start taking longer for people to get back home on the west. with trying to keep our junior bases staffed (barely) and our growing in ATL and the rumor mill about an NYC base. West coast staffing is full. So if a new hire wants west I would encourage you to consider two other regionals.

 

No. Things will stay the same until people stop showing up. That’s why when people ask me which regional they should go to I say 9E or one of the AA wholly owns.

 

^ I say the same.

Also, what’s up with the rumor on PSP 175 base?! I love rumors..

 

What is going on with this forum? This is the greatest time to be a pilot since the 60s. Demand is high, supply is low and corporations are profitable.
I swear if we went back to a hiring freeze people would be "thankful for a job!".

9E has had their bonus money rolled in to pay rates for all of 15 days. Republic hasn't passed anything yet. Our pay talks happened last spring! Can we be stable rational people on the internet and respect the timeline as we and the rest of the regionals work toward 9E/Republic rates?


The OO pilots being disingenuous about where we stand in this industry won't help achieve 9E rates. I do however like reading the fear based posts in here by non-OO pilots. I think I only come here to know that some of you guys still think about us daily.

 

Last Spring is when we should have asked for 9E money. Republic money at a bare minimum. Instead the west coasters and new hires were fine with 1%. People like you who are fine hanging on to the coat tails of everyone else is why we continue to drag behind. There isn’t any reason to come here any more other than the West Coast bases, which you’ll never hold as a Captain. If you’re out east the culture is dead and the company continues to find new ways to abuse Junior line holders. Sorry but sitting and waiting for the company to toss us some change is just sad. Hell, even when they finally do approach us with a pay bump it won’t be equal to our competitors, but they’ll use some fancy graphs to sell us longevity increases as part of our raise! Update your apps people.

 

100% agree. Morale is utterly hideous east of Denver. We have people quitting and heading off to part 135 operations so that they can procure time off. The schedules are rough. The further west one goes though, the more fanatic lifers are to be encountered, those who would be willing to sell all their belongings for the sake of the company's future. Sad state of affairs....