THIS!!!! Would you guys just listen to yourselves wanting to give the very hard earned farm away? My, my, my what short memories we have.

 

Maybe or maybe not. Many amongst our ranks are former UAL, DAL, USAirways, AA, etc. Those guys have the ultimate perspective of why you NEVER give up contract gains in order to supposedly fend off a furlough. Many of them did and then got furloughed anyway. Then the bankruptcy judge gutted their contracts.

Why start by lowering the bar at which the court will start at? How can I put this gently? STUPID!!!!

 

I am a spring 2017 hire so I am pretty much furlough fodder. I am reading the contract and saw where we would get 24 months of Jumpseat, non-rev travel and access to SWA life. Does anyone know if that extends to my parents and significant other.

i only ask because I think I can get a ferrying gig if the F bomb drops but I would need those bennies to extend to my parents for babysitting to make it all work.

 

I don’t have the answer but it sounds like a pretty important thing to you. That said, I’d check with SWAPA and the Kompany travel department (or whatever we call it) for verification.

 

A-frigging-men. As usual, we are our own worst enemies.

 

Slip,
You are a wise man, so I think you know this varies greatly on where you are sitting on the seniority list. While I am not "furlough fodder", I am definitely close enough to relate to those who are. I would take a temporary guarantee cut with a furlough SnapBack to keep our list intact.
Not too long ago, I was a single income, first year FO straight out of the military with no savings. I think it's great that some young guys can come on here and say "no concessions" due to their own personal situations, but they shouldn't assume that applies to everyone.
It's also easy to sit on a high perch and look down and say no concessions.

Again, I am for a reasonable, collaborative approach to keeping guys off the street. I would insist on trust measures being installed. Otherwise, I tend to agree with you.

As it stands now, the company just filed a public investor notice stating things are beginning to turn around. The press is all positive, the TSA stats are rising. Vaccine treatments and antibody boosters should hit the street in September if things hold like they are now.

I would say public trust is definitely in the direction of traffic returning with enough gusto to prevent a furlough. All it would take, though, is one more big New York style outbreak and we are back to where we were.

 

I'm nominating this for Best Post! 👍

 

I plan to vote for some concessions to keep people on property. I wasn’t a former legacy pilot I was an AIRTRAN pilot. I was also one of the 169 pilots that was thrown onto the streets. In 2001 Airtran took concessions to keep people on property. In 2008 they refused and we were thrown by the wayside. I watched people’s lives destroyed by that furlough and the rest of the pilot group seemingly oblivious to the impact it had on them. I plan given the chance to vote to prevent that this time.

 

pure civilian with no built in back up plan.

 

The wife is more than capable of going to work if she feels that strongly about it. It’s not her job. She’s not the one having to work for less. I didn’t put up with all the Contract 2016 BS just to give it away with no hopes of regaining what was lost, tough guy.