They could also join pprune ( Southwest has a private section ) That forum was not taking members but now is .



I personally think the SWAPA forum sucks . If they do not like what you post, you get infractions and or banded. They also love to delete posts .

Now you are not even allowed to say the word CHINA , on the SWAPA forum . They have gone way to far with the censorship

 

A little off topic but something I've been thinking of recently. When do we guess that the MAX will be back. It seemed as if the FAA was making good progress in the recertification process and then this virus hit. My dad even posed the question if the MAX will ever come back.

(P.S. I don't think it's a bad plane either, the media just gave it a terrible reputation)

 

Hopefully no time soon. If it comes back we're going to have to start paying for it.

 

His statement highlights a weakness of pilots as a labor group in general: the vast majority of pilots identify as conservative/libertarian yet their livelihoods depend on the efforts of organized labor. That dissonance sets the stage for often baffling behavior.

The particular guy who made that statement is an avowed libertarian and believer in Q-Anon. He has also been very supportive of the concept of organized labor in general. On the other hand, he is highly skeptical, with good reason, of both SWAPA and corporate management. Mix all of that together, and it sometimes produces thoughts and statements like what he said. He's a good guy, but it's difficult to balance all of those conflicting philosophies.

It's hard to hear all of that when you are facing the very real possibility of a lost job and income a few months from now. I'm really sorry you're in that position. I might be too. A lot of us might be. This whole covid situation sucks on many, many levels. 20 million unemployed so far. 45,000 dead. Who knows how many more? A lot of suck and sadness and fear right now. Understandably, emotions are running high.

 

‘He’s a good guy, but......’

The only SOP callout that is consistent across the industry.


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Yup...... One of them has a true Napolean complex.

 

The swapa forum is literally hijacked by the same morons that continuously post. They say they encourage others to join or participate but then slam them when they do. Especially if there views do not align with there’s which are the minority. That forum literally has become a cesspool

 

Agreed for the most part. Occasionally, there’s good info to be found there but usually after reading it, I feel kinda gross, dirty, and sad.

 

Lew, I appreciate your response and explanation. I’ll take your word on the “...a good guy...” part, but he sure made a fist impression on me a quite a few other newbies. More importantly, it wasn’t just him. I have an adjusted view of the level of brotherhood in SWAPA. My last trip, we DH’d a Capt in the back to his overnight... him and about 2 other people on the plane total. After we put the plane to bed and walked out to the the curb and call for the van, the hotel said ‘the van just picked up one of you, and will be back in 15 minutes.’ Yep! Our DH Capt couldn’t wait 5 more minutes for us, or ask if we’re all going to the same place. Thanks Buddy! That thread struck a very similar note with me. It is what it is.

For the record I am not one who wants concessions at all. Period. Like the FO on the thread in question, I have backup plans and will get by. But is the general SWAPA consensus that 120+ TFP/month is the new min guarantee? Like ramp thinks ‘10 minutes prior is the new 5 prior’?

 

The same thing happened to me last month. Maybe 5 people on the airplane, including one DHing FO. We specifically discussed going to the hotel when he got on the airplane, and I jokingly told him to send the van back for us. The entire crew was going to the H.I. I called the hotel as we left the airplane, and they said he's waiting for us. As we left the terminal in AUS, we could see the tail lights of the van going around the curve of the airport exit. I called again, and they said they'd picked up another crew and the van was full. 15-20 minutes later (Uber and Lyft were more than 45 minutes away), he comes back to get us. When we got to the hotel, the DHing FO, who took off in the van, had also signed into one of our rooms, which took another 5 minutes to sort out with the front desk. I asked about how many crew members there were on the van that left, and the driver said only the one SW guy. Gotta love it.

108+ has equalled 87-89 for as long as I've been here. "You can always work a little extra".......