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Old 06-08-2021 | 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by 4V14T0R
Your guess is as good as mine. I'd be willing to bet the options we exercised are growth. I'd also be willing to bet we delay some retirements so we could have options in case things don't go as planned and then we do a little more fleet renewal instead. Again, just a guess.


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It's in the 8-k...no reason to guess. 30-35 replacements per year
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Old 06-08-2021 | 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Smooth at FL450
It's in the 8-k...no reason to guess. 30-35 replacements per year

Must've missed it in the 8K. SWALife says the same thing too.


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Old 06-08-2021 | 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Zman81
But that’s the way it’s suppose to be. Premium was readily available in the summer. That’s why the union is screaming about over staffing and what it does. Like when times are bad you furlough. Where if you run lean you don’t worry about that.
Yes but the early JAs and VPFs before summer really is in full effect seems high. Also, I'm a 5 year guy who just got a military charter award...something that usually only goes to the senior most players this early in the month when we're all under the cap.
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Old 06-08-2021 | 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by 4V14T0R
Very easy to confirm in the latest 8K. Yes I have the charts.


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I didn’t see the retirement schedule in the 8K. I tried the new and improved SWAlife but I’m lucky to find CWA on that.
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Old 06-08-2021 | 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by mulcher
I didn’t see the retirement schedule in the 8K. I tried the new and improved SWAlife but I’m lucky to find CWA on that.

It's in there, just above the chart for the new delivery schedule. 30-35 -700s annually for the next 10-15 years.


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Old 06-08-2021 | 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by 4V14T0R
It's in there, just above the chart for the new delivery schedule. 30-35 -700s annually for the next 10-15 years.


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I see that. I remember on SWAlife they had an actual planned schedule. At one time it was fairly precise by tail number when each airframe was coming and going.
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Old 06-08-2021 | 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by mulcher
I see that. I remember on SWAlife they had an actual planned schedule. At one time it was fairly precise by tail number when each airframe was coming and going.

Oh! That's news to me.


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Old 06-08-2021 | 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by 4V14T0R
It's in there, just above the chart for the new delivery schedule. 30-35 -700s annually for the next 10-15 years.


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A small correction, but important. 30-35 700s annually, on average, for the next 10-15 years. That doesn't mean 30-35 every year. This being my 6th airline, I don't drink a whole lot of kool-aid, but technically speaking, that does not require them to retire a single airplane next year, or the year after, etc. I will be surprised if they retire any significant number of airplanes next year, especially given what GK and the likes have been saying.
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Old 06-08-2021 | 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by waterskisabersw
A small correction, but important. 30-35 700s annually, on average, for the next 10-15 years. That doesn't mean 30-35 every year. This being my 6th airline, I don't drink a whole lot of kool-aid, but technically speaking, that does not require them to retire a single airplane next year, or the year after, etc. I will be surprised if they retire any significant number of airplanes next year, especially given what GK and the likes have been saying.

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Old 06-08-2021 | 06:54 PM
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WRT to the -700s, we have what? 450+? Isn’t their average age about 15 years? So if we figure a 20-25 year life cycle then we’ve got 450 -700s that need to be retired in the next 5-10 years. That’s a lot quicker retirement schedule than 30-35 annually.

I just can’t see any of them being around for more than 10 years. My gut feeling is that there will be more MAXes ordered fo accelerate their retirement. Also, let’s not forget the other kicker…..the inevitable acquisition of another airline. Most likely in my humble opinion another airline with a lot of newer Airbuses and a fat order book for even more of them.
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