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07-03-2022 | 08:56 AM
#1551
Furloughed Again?!
Joined: Aug 2007
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I think you’re right. Question is whether they hold out for the October bid so they can bid vacation one more time as an FO, or if the kids are back in school so they go ahead and jump on it on the September bid.
07-03-2022 | 09:21 AM
#1552
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Apr 2013
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I think DEN being the junior base is offset by the vacation bidding for September. I predict it goes March '14. 107xxx.
If Oakland is still the predicted landing spot, I bet it goes even deeper. Maybe April '14.
October and November will go senior because of vacation bypassers. December is going to see two things:
Nobody wants to be locked into a December training month and all of those instructors in the summer classes are finally going to be making some money. I think it will dip to 8 years and then maybe even lower in 2023. There was about 14 months of no hiring after July 2014, but then there is a bug bubble after late 2015. Denver will eventually fill out and then it's back to west coast etops lock.
If Oakland is still the predicted landing spot, I bet it goes even deeper. Maybe April '14.
October and November will go senior because of vacation bypassers. December is going to see two things:
Nobody wants to be locked into a December training month and all of those instructors in the summer classes are finally going to be making some money. I think it will dip to 8 years and then maybe even lower in 2023. There was about 14 months of no hiring after July 2014, but then there is a bug bubble after late 2015. Denver will eventually fill out and then it's back to west coast etops lock.
07-03-2022 | 10:00 AM
#1554
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Apr 2013
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Likes: 397
Oh dude I am in the same boat. I will almost assuredly do 2022 CQT twice. That is a FO problem, though. Captains generally don't get jacked around
07-03-2022 | 11:52 AM
#1556
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Joined: Nov 2015
Posts: 1,364
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It's probably almost as good as taking an upgrade then signing up for a couple of years of continuous military service.
07-03-2022 | 12:07 PM
#1557
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Joined: May 2018
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I think that could be called a medical bypass... If you know you have a medical issue that's gonna take a lot of time to resolve (surgery to fix a chronic injury for example), take the upgrade, fly a few months to set your insurance pay baseline, and then get your medical issue sorted out. Get up off of first-year seniority while recovering at home on CA disability pay instead of wasting a year of high bidding priority while at the top of the FO seniority list.
It's probably almost as good as taking an upgrade then signing up for a couple of years of continuous military service.
It's probably almost as good as taking an upgrade then signing up for a couple of years of continuous military service.
07-03-2022 | 12:38 PM
#1558
weekends off? Nope...
Joined: Apr 2014
Posts: 2,407
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I think DEN being the junior base is offset by the vacation bidding for September. I predict it goes March '14. 107xxx.
If Oakland is still the predicted landing spot, I bet it goes even deeper. Maybe April '14.
October and November will go senior because of vacation bypassers. December is going to see two things:
Nobody wants to be locked into a December training month and all of those instructors in the summer classes are finally going to be making some money. I think it will dip to 8 years and then maybe even lower in 2023. There was about 14 months of no hiring after July 2014, but then there is a bug bubble after late 2015. Denver will eventually fill out and then it's back to west coast etops lock.
If Oakland is still the predicted landing spot, I bet it goes even deeper. Maybe April '14.
October and November will go senior because of vacation bypassers. December is going to see two things:
Nobody wants to be locked into a December training month and all of those instructors in the summer classes are finally going to be making some money. I think it will dip to 8 years and then maybe even lower in 2023. There was about 14 months of no hiring after July 2014, but then there is a bug bubble after late 2015. Denver will eventually fill out and then it's back to west coast etops lock.
07-03-2022 | 08:46 PM
#1559
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Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 3,655
Likes: 301
I think DEN being the junior base is offset by the vacation bidding for September. I predict it goes March '14. 107xxx.
If Oakland is still the predicted landing spot, I bet it goes even deeper. Maybe April '14.
October and November will go senior because of vacation bypassers. December is going to see two things:
Nobody wants to be locked into a December training month and all of those instructors in the summer classes are finally going to be making some money. I think it will dip to 8 years and then maybe even lower in 2023. There was about 14 months of no hiring after July 2014, but then there is a bug bubble after late 2015. Denver will eventually fill out and then it's back to west coast etops lock.
If Oakland is still the predicted landing spot, I bet it goes even deeper. Maybe April '14.
October and November will go senior because of vacation bypassers. December is going to see two things:
Nobody wants to be locked into a December training month and all of those instructors in the summer classes are finally going to be making some money. I think it will dip to 8 years and then maybe even lower in 2023. There was about 14 months of no hiring after July 2014, but then there is a bug bubble after late 2015. Denver will eventually fill out and then it's back to west coast etops lock.
07-03-2022 | 09:11 PM
#1560
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 4,553
Likes: 397
Oh yeah. Bypassers gonna bypass. I just think the possibility of a Denver upgrade may get a few that were hanging on to take the upgrade to a non etops base so that they can eventually flow back east and not have to worry about a lock.
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