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Old 10-24-2022 | 03:04 AM
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Just doing some perusing of the seniority lists and the Lance projection.

Check your preferences and elections, specifically the Lance box. I just changed mine. Somebody is going to get a big surprise when they are called by training scheduling to go to Dallas with little notice. Houston has two lances...they should have a lot more. Other bases look similar. I have a trip with my wife planned for November. She will gladly go without me, but I would rather spend a week with her than in the schoolhouse.
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Old 10-24-2022 | 01:35 PM
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They havent filled half of the lance spots company wide. Not sure if they ever will as the need real cpts not one who play so on the weekends. But yeah there will always be some surprises
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Old 10-24-2022 | 03:57 PM
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I’m not up on all the Lance rules in the contract, is there a min percentage the company has to fill? Or can they just let the program die and just force people to upgrade.
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Old 10-24-2022 | 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by DHC8DRV
I’m not up on all the Lance rules in the contract, is there a min percentage the company has to fill? Or can they just let the program die and just force people to upgrade.

Yes. They are required to designate 3.2 percent of FOs, but don't have to designate them past the first 10 percent in each domicile (no less than 50 for smaller domiciles).

They are way under 3.2 percent right now. I know there is a training backlog, but next month would be a good month to un-jam it and shoot some lances through training since there aren't that many regular upgrades. I would just say beware to anyone in the top 10 percent (or top 50) of FOs in any base. There are probably plenty of senior FOs with the Lance box unchecked that either don't want it or are biding their time. Somebody will get surprised, I guarantee it.
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Old 10-26-2022 | 07:33 AM
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In case you haven't seen it. Here's the hiring/upgrade plan for 2023.

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Old 10-26-2022 | 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by ZapBrannigan
In case you haven't seen it. Here's the hiring/upgrade plan for 2023.

where is this posted?
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Old 10-26-2022 | 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Smooth at FL450
where is this posted?
SWAPA linked to it in their latest update email. (10/25)
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Old 10-26-2022 | 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by ZapBrannigan
SWAPA linked to it in their latest update email. (10/25)
found it, thanks
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Old 10-26-2022 | 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by ZapBrannigan
In case you haven't seen it. Here's the hiring/upgrade plan for 2023.

So the airline is gonna retire ~300-350 over the next 12-14 months?

and hire 2400 over the next 12-14 months?

so going from ~9500 pilots to ~11400?

That equates to ~20% growth in <14 months…

Where’s the koolaid to go with this graph???
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Old 10-26-2022 | 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Reese
So the airline is gonna retire ~300-350 over the next 12-14 months?

and hire 2400 over the next 12-14 months?

so going from ~9500 pilots to ~11400?

That equates to ~20% growth in <14 months…

Where’s the koolaid to go with this graph???
just a minor point, but myseniority shows 290 captains retiring in the next 2 years and 27 FOs
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