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Old 09-03-2021 | 03:41 AM
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Did you guys look at SWAPA lance snapshots?

Yes, in my base, it’s purely academic, but it’s still surprising how many people end up opting out.

Out west, namely at LAX, the numbers have been a little more surprising.
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Old 09-03-2021 | 04:37 AM
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Not surprising when the Lances can’t give away their FO trips because FOs aren’t picking up due to being understaffed.
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Old 09-03-2021 | 05:29 AM
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Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER
Not surprising when the Lances can’t give away their FO trips because FOs aren’t picking up due to being understaffed.

Really good point. If you can't get rid of FO trips then Lance is no better than senior FO in a different base.


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Old 09-03-2021 | 05:30 AM
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… and now you’re commuting.
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Old 09-03-2021 | 06:43 AM
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What's the point of opting out? You dont have to do it even if you've opted in, but at least you have the choice
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Old 09-03-2021 | 06:48 AM
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Originally Posted by hoover
What's the point of opting out? You dont have to do it even if you've opted in, but at least you have the choice

I'm opted in but I guess I don't clearly understand the process. You bid FO into a base where you think you'll be senior enough to hold Lance, and then they call and ask if you want to when your number comes up?


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Old 09-03-2021 | 07:11 AM
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I am opted in, but it's silly. You are long past upgrade if you are in the window for Lance. That may change, if it does, I will adjust accordingly.

I commute. I wouldn't lance in any base that I wouldn't be a captain in.

I flew with a Lance this trip that has been doing it for almost 3 years and wasn't eligible for upgrade with the latest bid. He showed me his board. He is doing well, but the last two months he can't give away his FO trips. Premium Captain duty periods are like fishing with dynamite right now, but you have to be legal.
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Old 09-03-2021 | 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER
Not surprising when the Lances can’t give away their FO trips because FOs aren’t picking up due to being understaffed.
In my case, I'm not picking up much because I can't deal with the repeated bait-and-switch. Guarantee* me that my trip won't change, and I'll jump right in.

* by guarantee, I mean they'll pay me triple time or triple the rigs for the entire pairing if they touch it! I'm not totally inflexible.
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Old 09-03-2021 | 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by CA1900
In my case, I'm not picking up much because I can't deal with the repeated bait-and-switch. Guarantee* me that my trip won't change, and I'll jump right in.

* by guarantee, I mean they'll pay me triple time or triple the rigs for the entire pairing if they touch it! I'm not totally inflexible.
I've said this for years. If I choose to pick up on a day off, that does not equate to my tacit approval for any and all extensions or reroutes into MORE days off.
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Old 09-03-2021 | 12:23 PM
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I’ve got one better… be able to volunteer.

Our Scheduling practices reminds me of the old joke that goes like this:

What does this masochist say to a sadist?

“Hurt me! Let me have it. Do your worst!”

And the sadist looks at the masochist with a smirk and says:

“Naw!”

I try to play the game and pick up. I haven’t been JA’d this summer at all, and I’ve been legal for all kinds of abuse.
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