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02-09-2024 | 10:15 AM
#51
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Release to check in? Wow? Those are not big changes that are meaningful in any way.
02-09-2024 | 10:21 AM
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So tell me again how coming in the night before is any different than before???
02-09-2024 | 10:49 AM
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02-09-2024 | 10:53 AM
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So why don't you explain how commuting up the night before, which is the same as the last contract, is better? LOL!
02-09-2024 | 11:24 AM
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Under current rules, I still have to be in position at the beginning of the reserve period, at 3am. So that means coming in the night before.
Under the new release-to-check-in provision coming in the new CBA, as soon as I acknowledge that trip assignment, I can get released from the RAP entirely. For that trip, I'm now the same as a lineholder, and I can stay home, skip the hotel/crashpad, and commute in on the flight that lands in the morning at 7:30. If you don't see that a meaningful change, I don't know what to tell you. It'll be a dramatic QOL increase for a lot of our pilots. It's not long-call, but it has a lot of the same benefit if you get assigned a trip.
02-09-2024 | 11:33 AM
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Let's say I'm on an LAX 3-day AM reserve block tomorrow. This afternoon, I get assigned a 3-day that doesn't report until 9am.
Under current rules, I still have to be in position at the beginning of the reserve period, at 3am. So that means coming in the night before.
Under the new release-to-check-in provision coming in the new CBA, as soon as I acknowledge that trip assignment, I can get released from the RAP entirely. For that trip, I'm now the same as a lineholder, and I can stay home, skip the hotel/crashpad, and commute in on the flight that lands in the morning at 7:30. If you don't see that a meaningful change, I don't know what to tell you. It'll be a dramatic QOL increase for a lot of our pilots. It's not long-call, but it has a lot of the same benefit if you get assigned a trip.
Under current rules, I still have to be in position at the beginning of the reserve period, at 3am. So that means coming in the night before.
Under the new release-to-check-in provision coming in the new CBA, as soon as I acknowledge that trip assignment, I can get released from the RAP entirely. For that trip, I'm now the same as a lineholder, and I can stay home, skip the hotel/crashpad, and commute in on the flight that lands in the morning at 7:30. If you don't see that a meaningful change, I don't know what to tell you. It'll be a dramatic QOL increase for a lot of our pilots. It's not long-call, but it has a lot of the same benefit if you get assigned a trip.
I don't see that as meaningful change at all, considering a majority of guys who were experienced with sitting reserve, did that already anyway and just took the chance and commuted in that morning. And it's still not long call.
02-09-2024 | 11:45 AM
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Where you the guy in the Lounge complaning about Reserve rules?? Sure sounds like it. So no "long call" out, I stand correct! Like I said, they did not touch much with reserve.
So why don't you explain how commuting up the night before, which is the same as the last contract, is better? LOL!
So why don't you explain how commuting up the night before, which is the same as the last contract, is better? LOL!
02-09-2024 | 11:49 AM
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Yep, it isn't long call, and with the number of 4 day reserves and low number of 4 days, RTC will be used minimally. Those 3 day blocks with a gutting of STC RTC will be pretty good (and actually legal pre the current CBA, not just guys that chanced not getting caught) though for commuters.
02-09-2024 | 11:54 AM
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No actually you said they didn't touch reserve, meaning no changes. They did. They didn't go far enough in your supposed opinion. They did in fact make changes though. I call you out on it and now I'm some how the guy in the lounge? I'll freely admit I wish there was actual long call (I always thought the strawman arguments against it were exactly that). I also would like to see changes to the RCO and make it seniority driven, not utilization based. Those two things aside, reserve is actually pretty good here. I'm not a commuter and bid reserve by choice at times. For the actual changes, I suggest reading the document you and I must live by. Aside from a few plucked details, you seem pretty uneducated.
02-09-2024 | 11:56 AM
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Yep, it isn't long call, and with the number of 4 day reserves and low number of 4 days, RTC will be used minimally. Those 3 day blocks with a gutting of STC RTC will be pretty good (and actually legal pre the current CBA, not just guys that chanced not getting caught) though for commuters.
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