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Old 05-10-2024 | 06:56 AM
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Originally Posted by flyguy81
If some pilots want a ETO option vs flying garbage rigged trips for 16-17 off, I think it’s the union’s job to negotiate for all pilots. I’d hope that the quality of lines would improve with a smaller headcount, but they’d prob just reduce a few rsv/blank lines instead. I’d rather everyone get another 1-3 days off a month with green bars and make the trips better…
Originally Posted by RJSAviator76
Bring on the green bars.
Agreed on both points.
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Old 05-10-2024 | 07:40 AM
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I do not see why SWAPA does not want zero pay lines. I would think all the pilots who clear their board every month , would like those lines. (predicated on being able to pick up.)

Can someone chime in why it's not a good idea.


If the answer is due to green bars, and why not give the zero lines a GB average .
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Old 05-10-2024 | 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Mozam
I do not see why SWAPA does not want zero pay lines. I would think all the pilots who clear their board every month , would like those lines. (predicated on being able to pick up.)

Can someone chime in why it's not a good idea.
If you can get the same thing at half guarantee (for example), why not try for that first? If that fails, then we can discuss zero pay lines.
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Old 05-10-2024 | 08:45 AM
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Zero pay lines are divisive at this airline. Most guys would use them to game the system and build their own schedule.

If they want true zero pay pilots, offer LOAs. Done.

ETO is dumb in this case. Sorry, it just is. This is a temporary setback, not the end of days.
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Old 05-10-2024 | 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by e6bpilot
Zero pay lines are divisive at this airline. Most guys would use them to game the system and build their own schedule.

If they want true zero pay pilots, offer LOAs. Done.

ETO is dumb in this case. Sorry, it just is. This is a temporary setback, not the end of days.
All of this. Bring on the green bars.
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Old 05-10-2024 | 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Mozam
I do not see why SWAPA does not want zero pay lines. I would think all the pilots who clear their board every month , would like those lines. (predicated on being able to pick up.)

Can someone chime in why it's not a good idea.


If the answer is due to green bars, and why not give the zero lines a GB average .
You really think the company would allow 0 hr lines with the ability to choose your own schedule? Yeah right. If they're overstaffed, they prob want you to take time off and not pay you a cent...at all. Not give you the ability to credit 150+ on premium...that doesn't help their bottom line. Guys on ETO/EXTO were not allowed to pick up, I assume the same thing would apply to any other leave program. ETO would give people the ability to take a month off with "some" pay/NEC....not sure how that would play into your MBE for LOL purposes if you went out anytime within a year after taking the time off.
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Old 05-10-2024 | 09:46 AM
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Looks like SWAPA is close to closing the deal. ETO at 50 percent pay is what they are considering. Check your email
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Old 05-10-2024 | 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by RJSAviator76
All of this. Bring on the green bars.
Looks like swapull is negotiating to give those green bars away. Among a few other things.
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Old 05-10-2024 | 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by mulcher
Looks like swapull is negotiating to give those green bars away. Among a few other things.
This is such BS. Let's pay a few lucky people 50% for sitting on their butts, while everyone else gets crappy paying 12-15 day lines without a green bar. Uh nope. Not interested. Too bad SNAPA doesn't care what the unwashed masses think.
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Old 05-10-2024 | 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by MudhammedCJ
This is such BS. Let's pay a few lucky people 50% for sitting on their butts, while everyone else gets crappy paying 12-15 day lines without a green bar. Uh nope. Not interested. Too bad SNAPA doesn't care what the unwashed masses think.

They did say they want input. If they are sincere or not, I'm not sure, but they want to hear from the masses.
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