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Old 01-18-2026 | 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Mozam
I think this is much bigger than just that. If W&B was the only issue, then after takeoff the JS could go sit in th back. The W&B is for takeoff numbers only. This is about spanking the pilot group.
Thats my point.
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Old 01-18-2026 | 09:19 AM
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Scenario:

WN pilot shows up and requests FD jumpseat. WN FA shows up and requests cabin jumpseat.

A seat is open in the back.

Who gets the seat?

This situation absolutely will happen.
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Old 01-18-2026 | 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Mozam
I think this is much bigger than just that. If W&B was the only issue, then after takeoff the JS could go sit in th back. The W&B is for takeoff numbers only. This is about spanking the pilot group.
Yes. Think I’m going to attempt to “embrace” the new fuel policy and not add gas every leg? Think I’m going to SE taxi? They never factor in the unintended costs.
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Old 01-18-2026 | 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by at6d
Scenario:

WN pilot shows up and requests FD jumpseat. WN FA shows up and requests cabin jumpseat.

A seat is open in the back.

Who gets the seat?

This situation absolutely will happen.
unless the JS guy is a buddy of mine and we want to have a good Ole fashion B session about the company, union, life etc then he gets the seat in the back. The FA can keep the 4th.
I mostly do that because 3 people in the cockpit is annoying and that JS sucks. Also the FA is better equipped with sitting back there because thats what they do and know how to help nor stay out of the way.
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Old 01-18-2026 | 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by hoover
unless the JS guy is a buddy of mine and we want to have a good Ole fashion B session about the company, union, life etc then he gets the seat in the back. The FA can keep the 4th.
I mostly do that because 3 people in the cockpit is annoying and that JS sucks. Also the FA is better equipped with sitting back there because thats what they do and know how to help nor stay out of the way.
If that's the reasoning, can we turn it around a bit?

Now its a pilot in the cockpit jumpseat but let's say.... a reservation agent... or someone from Technology.... or someone from Customer Relations on the FA jumpseat....

With your reasoning the pilot should stay in the cockpit because he or she knows that job and how to stay out of the way up there and the non-FA who doesn't know the FA job or how to stay out of our way should get the cabin seat.
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Old 01-18-2026 | 11:17 AM
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Is the 4th jumpseater required to stay in the jumpseat? Same procedure if they want an open seat?
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Old 01-18-2026 | 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by SWAFA
If that's the reasoning, can we turn it around a bit?

Now its a pilot in the cockpit jumpseat but let's say.... a reservation agent... or someone from Technology.... or someone from Customer Relations on the FA jumpseat....

With your reasoning the pilot should stay in the cockpit because he or she knows that job and how to stay out of the way up there and the non-FA who doesn't know the FA job or how to stay out of our way should get the cabin seat.
For me…the less crowded I am the better. I don’t know the clearing priority but I’d prefer the cockpit jumpseater get a seat in back if there is one.

I’m sure FA’s would prefer less crowding in the galley, but a crowded galley doesn’t affect the operation of the airplane moving through the sky. I have to scoot way forward and can’t fly the leg if there’s 2 jumpseaters up front. It’s uncomfortable and we already can’t move around since we’re trapped up front.
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Old 01-18-2026 | 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by SWAFA
If that's the reasoning, can we turn it around a bit?

Now its a pilot in the cockpit jumpseat but let's say.... a reservation agent... or someone from Technology.... or someone from Customer Relations on the FA jumpseat....

With your reasoning the pilot should stay in the cockpit because he or she knows that job and how to stay out of the way up there and the non-FA who doesn't know the FA job or how to stay out of our way should get the cabin seat.
if it's a SW pilot id just talk to each and see what they prefer.
If it's OAL then that person gets a seat in the back because them are the rules.
Im very pro getting everyone on board.
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Old 01-18-2026 | 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by flyguy81
For me…the less crowded I am the better. I don’t know the clearing priority but I’d prefer the cockpit jumpseater get a seat in back if there is one.

I’m sure FA’s would prefer less crowding in the galley, but a crowded galley doesn’t affect the operation of the airplane moving through the sky. I have to scoot way forward and can’t fly the leg if there’s 2 jumpseaters up front. It’s uncomfortable and we already can’t move around since we’re trapped up front.
And I actually agree with you... 100%. I hate even going up there for your bathroom breaks because of how cramped and claustrophobic I feel up there with just two of us. I couldn't imagine three or four people up there.

My response was to the comment saying the person on the FA jumpseat knows the job and knows how to stay out of the way. Half the time, it's NOT a FA on the FA jumpseat and they don't know our job and definitely don't know how to stay out of the way (something I still cannot believe is allowed after all these years).

So that particular reasoning is not the best way to determine which jumpseater gets the last remaining cabin seat. That's all I was saying.
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Old 01-18-2026 | 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by at6d
Scenario:

WN pilot shows up and requests FD jumpseat. WN FA shows up and requests cabin jumpseat.

A seat is open in the back.

Who gets the seat?

This situation absolutely will happen.
It happens now. Captains discretion.
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