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11-13-2017, 04:58 PM
#21
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Originally Posted by SUX4U
I thought that seemed pretty optimistic. Where is the 17 year upgrade numbers coming from?
11-13-2017, 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by king10pin02
prob a combo of pilots per plane devided in half and mandatory retirements, though it wasnt my number
11-13-2017, 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by king10pin02
anyone past seniority number 1400 or so will mathmatically never upgrade.. not counting for attrition or retirements and assuming no additional aircraft orders
11-13-2017, 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by SUX4U
Gotcha! Hope for everyone's sake over there that those numbers will change in a more favorable way.
11-13-2017, 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by king10pin02
no new orders=when the music stops at 161 planes, there are only so many capt spots. 161x17pilots per plane...divide in half you get 1368ish captains.
11-14-2017, 02:10 AM
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If your friend has been here for 2 years already then yes, he will likely have a 3 year (total) upgrade. However, for someone hired now, that mathematically will not occur unless we get a new aircraft order or much much higher attrition (possible! Lol)
At the end of 2017, the most junior CA upgrade will be at 56% of the list.
Just my guess but... at the end of this aircraft order, 2021, we should have around 2600 pilots, with current staffing model. That puts junior captain at seniority 1500 ish. We have already hired through seniority 1800 ish.
At the end of 2017, the most junior CA upgrade will be at 56% of the list.
Just my guess but... at the end of this aircraft order, 2021, we should have around 2600 pilots, with current staffing model. That puts junior captain at seniority 1500 ish. We have already hired through seniority 1800 ish.
11-14-2017, 05:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Spear it
If your friend has been here for 2 years already then yes, he will likely have a 3 year (total) upgrade. However, for someone hired now, that mathematically will not occur unless we get a new aircraft order or much much higher attrition (possible! Lol)
At the end of 2017, the most junior CA upgrade will be at 56% of the list.
Just my guess but... at the end of this aircraft order, 2021, we should have around 2600 pilots, with current staffing model. That puts junior captain at seniority 1500 ish. We have already hired through seniority 1800 ish.
At the end of 2017, the most junior CA upgrade will be at 56% of the list.
Just my guess but... at the end of this aircraft order, 2021, we should have around 2600 pilots, with current staffing model. That puts junior captain at seniority 1500 ish. We have already hired through seniority 1800 ish.
Spirit will be a great career choice if:
1 we get a good contract soon
2 airplane order
3 Management is changed to a group that cares about employees
4 we don’t get bought, merged, parted out etc.
Or you can play the powerball, which probably has better odds
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