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Old 11-15-2017 | 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by lowandslow
Dammit man no one is saying transition is more important than those things. We are saying to not be so flippant towards getting rid of it. It has real value that those statements only undermine. In-base people could argue that 4 days off only screws them out of lines with all weekends off and they’d be right. That said it is a work rule that shouldn’t just be given away.
I get transition conflicts pretty regularly, I think we should give back reserve drops or at least "center of reserve block" drops if we can keep transition because that won't affect me personally and it really only applies to 20% of the pilot group anyway.


That's the game we're playing here, right?
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Old 11-15-2017 | 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by FML666
I get transition conflicts pretty regularly, I think we should give back reserve drops or at least "center of reserve block" drops if we can keep transition because that won't affect me personally and it really only applies to 20% of the pilot group anyway.




That's the game we're playing here, right?
Theeeee ole drop the middle day.

Im going to miss flying 160hrs a year..........
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Old 11-15-2017 | 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Chimpy
Theeeee ole drop the middle day.

Im going to miss flying 160hrs a year..........
I’m going to miss not being paid industry standard wages.
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Old 11-15-2017 | 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Chimpy
Theeeee ole drop the middle day.

Im going to miss flying 160hrs a year..........
That's great but only a select few of our 1600+ pilots can pull off 160 hours a year so the interests of the 20% of us who pad our credit to block ratios with TX drops every month or two must take precedence over those of your insignificant little group. For the greater good your drop the middle day loophole is just gonna have to go.


Damn, I'm really warming to this "it doesn't affect me personally so IDGAF" method of contract negotiations we've stumbled upon in this thread!!! Maybe we can even get some snazzy yellow "Screw Anyone Who Isn't Me, I'm Gonna Get Me Mine" lanyards so nobody forgets it? /sarcasm

Originally Posted by Lincoln Osiris
I’m going to miss not being paid industry standard wages.
How can you miss something you never had in the first place?

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Old 11-15-2017 | 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Chimpy
Theeeee ole drop the middle day.

Im going to miss flying 160hrs a year..........
How much OT is there in ACY?? And, let’s say they wanted to send you elsewhere to cover a trip, how easy would it be to get you there? The benefits you enjoy there don’t necessarily apply to those of us in DFW, ORD, or DTW....
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Old 11-15-2017 | 06:16 PM
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So much for not negotiating in public..
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Old 11-15-2017 | 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by FML666
That's great but only a select few of our 1600+ pilots can pull off 160 hours a year so the interests of the 20% of us who pad our credit to block ratios with TX drops every month or two must take precedence over those of your insignificant little group. For the greater good your drop the middle day loophole is just gonna have to go.


Damn, I'm really warming to this "it doesn't affect me personally so IDGAF" method of contract negotiations we've stumbled upon in this thread!!! Maybe we can even get some snazzy yellow "Screw Anyone Who Isn't Me, I'm Gonna Get Me Mine" lanyards so nobody forgets it? /sarcasm



How can you miss something you never had in the first place?
Jesus dude calm down, lol. I wasnt saying TX isnt important, its all important. Im in favor of doing what benefits the majority over what benefits just me

Im ok with middle day drops going away if it means we get Industry Standard Pay. They gottaaaaaa pay though!
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Old 11-15-2017 | 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Tranquility
How much OT is there in ACY?? And, let’s say they wanted to send you elsewhere to cover a trip, how easy would it be to get you there? The benefits you enjoy there don’t necessarily apply to those of us in DFW, ORD, or DTW....
ACY is home of the double deadhead to start & end a trip. (For RSVs). Very easy for them to limo us to PHL and DH
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Old 11-15-2017 | 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Chimpy
ACY is home of the double deadhead to start & end a trip. (For RSVs). Very easy for them to limo us to PHL and DH
Fair enough, I didn’t know that was a regular occurrence for y’all...
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Old 11-15-2017 | 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Tranquility
Fair enough, I didn’t know that was a regular occurrence for y’all...
Its almost a gaurantee in ACY. Guys go out on 5,6 day trips all the time with more DH legs than active ones
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