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Old 01-28-2018 | 09:44 PM
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hahahahaaaaaa
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Old 01-29-2018 | 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by NFjt
ha ha ha. Got me.
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Old 01-29-2018 | 08:43 AM
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Like many others have said, this is a NO deal.
Why vote yes on this initial offer, even if it were acceptable?
Past experience shows that turning down the first offer, provides for gains in subsequent deals.
Especially:
Not in February. Terrible timing!
In max 3-4 months achieve improvements which will last 5-7 years!
Not when the company is rushing to sign.
Not when there is an AC order pending approval.
Not when the PBS LOA is not even drafted yet.
Not when we are giving away nearly all our QOL.
Saving a single scheduling provision, is worth 3 months.
By June management will be feeling the squeeze,
let's NOT gift them another relief

A NO vote is not a reflection on the effort of the NC, it's a vote to empower the NC with negotiating capital.

Did we learn anything from the LMS LOA ?
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Old 01-29-2018 | 08:49 AM
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I love the LMA LOA, lol
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Old 01-29-2018 | 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by astral
Like many others have said, this is a NO deal.
Why vote yes on this initial offer, even if it were acceptable?
Past experience shows that turning down the first offer, provides for gains in subsequent deals.
Especially:
Not in February. Terrible timing!
In max 3-4 months achieve improvements which will last 5-7 years!
Not when the company is rushing to sign.
Not when there is an AC order pending approval.
Not when the PBS LOA is not even drafted yet.
Not when we are giving away nearly all our QOL.
Saving a single scheduling provision, is worth 3 months.
By June management will be feeling the squeeze,
let's NOT gift them another relief

A NO vote is not a reflection on the effort of the NC, it's a vote to empower the NC with negotiating capital.

Did we learn anything from the LMS LOA ?
Geez dude, you couldn’t find even ONE point to make with facts to back it up?
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Old 01-29-2018 | 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by astral
Like many others have said, this is a NO deal.
Why vote yes on this initial offer, even if it were acceptable?
Past experience shows that turning down the first offer, provides for gains in subsequent deals.
Especially:
Not in February. Terrible timing!
In max 3-4 months achieve improvements which will last 5-7 years!
Not when the company is rushing to sign.
Not when there is an AC order pending approval.
Not when the PBS LOA is not even drafted yet.
Not when we are giving away nearly all our QOL.
Saving a single scheduling provision, is worth 3 months.
By June management will be feeling the squeeze,
let's NOT gift them another relief

A NO vote is not a reflection on the effort of the NC, it's a vote to empower the NC with negotiating capital.

Did we learn anything from the LMS LOA ?
Whatever your smoking I would love to have some. Must be some good $hit.
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Old 01-29-2018 | 11:44 AM
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How come the union email today doesn’t give a pairing credit example for a redeye back to base? The types of pairings that would result in 10 hours 3 days and 15 hour 4 days.
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Old 01-29-2018 | 11:51 AM
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Why don't you ask them and then get back to us on that?
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Old 01-29-2018 | 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by JimmyBeam
Why don't you ask them and then get back to us on that?
I have. They said they can’t talk specifics. But yet today’s email is giving specific examples.......?
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Old 01-29-2018 | 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by NKSMCOTAKEOVER
How come the union email today doesn’t give a pairing credit example for a redeye back to base? The types of pairings that would result in 10 hours 3 days and 15 hour 4 days.
It's their job to sell this TA. They are going to highlight the positives and barely mention the negatives. That's how it always is when a TA comes out.
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