Summer meltdown
#81
Do they though? As bad as it is this week, I still think most [of us] will still continue to “Sort By: Price Low to High”
Don’t get me wrong, I wish we’d rebrand as much as the next guy, but it just seems so unlikely when people only think with their wallets. This current outrage will just become another forgotten memory or a “Maybe I’ll give them one more chance since it’s so cheap” type situation I think.
Don’t get me wrong, I wish we’d rebrand as much as the next guy, but it just seems so unlikely when people only think with their wallets. This current outrage will just become another forgotten memory or a “Maybe I’ll give them one more chance since it’s so cheap” type situation I think.
Bottom line is 97% of people are completely full of it. It’s internet tough talk. “F airline XYZ. Never flying these Dbags ever again I tell you!” 🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱
Airline meltdowns are a revolving door. We all get our 15 mins and it closes. Our door is going to be open again (like every single airline at some point).
Now people may think I’m sympathetic. I’m in NO WAY CONDONING this. This is, obviously, NOT GOOD, but I’m also not stupid. The fact that we operate 600-700 flights a day (without issue) is simply insane to me. I mean truly. The logistics of it all? It really really is mindblowing.
TLDR - Spirit is going nowhere despite an unfortunate meltdown that happens to, literally, 100% of Every legacy and major carrier in the US. And no I’m not condoning it.
#83
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The Frontier branding will prevail after the merge
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#86
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Now people may think I’m sympathetic. I’m in NO WAY CONDONING this. This is, obviously, NOT GOOD, but I’m also not stupid. The fact that we operate 600-700 flights a day (without issue) is simply insane to me. I mean truly. The logistics of it all? It really really is mindblowing.
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#87
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Yes but there is no excuse. Top management is way out of touch with frontline employees. They are putting the kart before the horse and every year except 20’ there has been a major meltdown with promises to shareholders to fix things. Yet here we are again.
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You guys act like we're the only ones having a problem. I can't believe we've lasted this long. Everyone this summer has had problems, except maybe UAL at this point. The whole Industry is a mess.
NOw get vaccinated and wear your mask. 😉
#89
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This is far from our typical meltdown. Yes we've sat waiting for gates before because we operate to tight, but when have you ever sat 45 min in front of an empty gate waiting?
You guys act like we're the only ones having a problem. I can't believe we've lasted this long. Everyone this summer has had problems, except maybe UAL at this point. The whole Industry is a mess.
NOw get vaccinated and wear your mask. 😉
You guys act like we're the only ones having a problem. I can't believe we've lasted this long. Everyone this summer has had problems, except maybe UAL at this point. The whole Industry is a mess.
NOw get vaccinated and wear your mask. 😉
It’s the loss of operational control every time it happens. You can’t lose control of the operation. You can’t have crews stuck for days and no way to get ahold of anyone. How many crews are canceled and won’t receive a call to inform them they are canceled, etc? How many crews are having to secure their own hotels because nobody on the company side will do it? That’s kind of the larger issue, losing operational control to the point where your crews are stranded out throughout the system and realizing it will likely be days until scheduling even gets to them, so it’s every crew to fend for themselves. That’s the larger issue
Reminds me of 2015 where we lost operational control and guys were saying screw it and flying home. Scheduling would call them a few days later and ask where they were, “I went home.”
I’m canceled for today, no call of course. No scheduling modification. So I won’t go to the airport even though we haven’t been modified off the pairing. Hotel? They aren’t reachable to secure us a room so looks like I’ll have to ask the hotel to extend or use the credit card for reimbursement. Point is, the operation shouldn’t collapse annually like it does and lose operational control.
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I don’t think it’s the seasonal collapse that’s the issue, like you said, it’s going to happen.
It’s the loss of operational control every time it happens. You can’t lose control of the operation. You can’t have crews stuck for days and no way to get ahold of anyone. How many crews are canceled and won’t receive a call to inform them they are canceled, etc? How many crews are having to secure their own hotels because nobody on the company side will do it? That’s kind of the larger issue, losing operational control to the point where your crews are stranded out throughout the system and realizing it will likely be days until scheduling even gets to them, so it’s every crew to fend for themselves. That’s the larger issue
Reminds me of 2015 where we lost operational control and guys were saying screw it and flying home. Scheduling would call them a few days later and ask where they were, “I went home.”
I’m canceled for today, no call of course. No scheduling modification. So I won’t go to the airport even though we haven’t been modified off the pairing. Hotel? They aren’t reachable to secure us a room so looks like I’ll have to ask the hotel to extend or use the credit card for reimbursement. Point is, the operation shouldn’t collapse annually like it does and lose operational control.
It’s the loss of operational control every time it happens. You can’t lose control of the operation. You can’t have crews stuck for days and no way to get ahold of anyone. How many crews are canceled and won’t receive a call to inform them they are canceled, etc? How many crews are having to secure their own hotels because nobody on the company side will do it? That’s kind of the larger issue, losing operational control to the point where your crews are stranded out throughout the system and realizing it will likely be days until scheduling even gets to them, so it’s every crew to fend for themselves. That’s the larger issue
Reminds me of 2015 where we lost operational control and guys were saying screw it and flying home. Scheduling would call them a few days later and ask where they were, “I went home.”
I’m canceled for today, no call of course. No scheduling modification. So I won’t go to the airport even though we haven’t been modified off the pairing. Hotel? They aren’t reachable to secure us a room so looks like I’ll have to ask the hotel to extend or use the credit card for reimbursement. Point is, the operation shouldn’t collapse annually like it does and lose operational control.
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