Keizer Soze

I can only attest to my previous career. I felt I was underpaid as a professional while working 80+ hours per week (that's right, 320 hours per month. 60-70 per week in the building and the rest at home, and if I am being totally honest, spending almost every waking moment thinking about work), while making half what I make as a 6 year captain at Spirit working less than 90 hours per month.

My previous job was fun up until about the 50th hour that week. Then it was just hard work. But if I wanted to make the money I had to put in the time.

This job, as far as I am concerned, is fun from block in to block out every trip and downright joyous while spending over half of every month at home with family and not thinking about work at all. How do you really place a monetary value on that?

arjanssen

What's the likelihood of flying less than the min at Spirit? Of course, taking less pay...

Is the typical month 4 trips? 3 Trips? Can you drop easily?

Thanks

Cefiro

As long as you’re a line holder and there are reserves that day, you can drop to zero.

Qotsaautopilot

Easy to put a monetary value on it. Don’t compare it to your last job unless your last job was professional airline pilot. This is the job. Justin Verlander doesn’t monetize throwing a baseball in comparison with working 80hrs a week in an office. And we shouldn’t compare flying professionally to the office job either. Completely different skill sets and job requirements and market compensation. Only compare yourself to other pro pilots. On that level we are underpaid no matter how you look at it.

Qotsaautopilot

People that aren’t airline pilots may not believe you but other pros may say it’s just ok and not crazy. You worked incredibly hard to get to this level and take enormous responsibility every time you release the brake. You’re well trained and at the top of your field and may make it look easy but it’s certainly not.

My father in law worked a lot of his career at the c level of some decent sized companies and was able to get some good equity that turned into much more cash than we’ll ever make. He’s not uber rich but doing just fine and was able to retire early. He keeps telling me jokingly he should’ve been a pilot. He also said as he worked through his career the higher he got the more money he made and the less he had to work. The responsibility increased a lot but the actual work was less and less as the money became more and more. We shouldn’t expect less. We need to stop thinking of ourselves as working stiffs punching a clock and more like professionals.

Macjet

For those that release the parking brake...

Keizer Soze

I can compare it to my last job if I want to. I currently work 1/4th as much as I did in my previous career and make twice as much. That does not mean I don't want to make more nor think that I shouldn't make more. But when I ponder where I am today and where I was 15 years ago I absolutely believe that I am way better off now than I was then. Especially when it comes to quality time with my family and my health. I do not place a monetary value on that because I believe it is priceless. And your baseball analogy is totally lost on me. Who is Justin Verlander?

sioux8ships

He scored the wining goal for the Blues when they won the Super Bowl this year.

Omniscient

What are you even talking about?

Of course you compare it to working an office job because that’s what we are saying, if we didn’t have this job, it would be an office job. The topic came from “living the dream”, not “living the spirit dream”.

I get you’re always trying to keep people focused on raising the bar; but this isn’t a conversation on value of a spirit pilot vs spirit pilot. It’s this career vs not this career. It’s what we have vs “I can’t fly, not what”

And for the record, if Verlander couldn’t fly (pitch) anymore, he sure could enjoy his life motorboating those big’uns.

Extenda

I got the sense that this was your guys’ airline based on the base and some other input from the Reddit thread. Don’t read if you don’t wanna get ****ed off.

https://www.reddit.com/r/MaliciousCompliance/comments/dwpba9/airline_pilot_refuses_my_offer_and_demands_more/?st=K30UXHDD&sh=ff2d35e7