New hire pay on reserve
10-31-2019 | 11:05 AM
#11
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Coming from a good corporate airplane, it’s going to take me several years to get back to where I’m at, and the first year paycut is a whole whole lot, but as you guys stated, you just have to suck it up and do it. We are going to live off savings, and I sold a few toys to fund the first year. In the end, I’ll get it all back and get it back relatively quickly.
10-31-2019 | 11:24 AM
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A friend of mine I helped get hired just went through this. Without divulging details about his life, he saw he could just barely make it on salary and eating into savings, but was worried about some unexpected things that may come up. We have the same bank and I suggested a home equity line of credit since they have good terms. Now he has access to a large sum of money if he really needs it, otherwise they just tighten their belts a bit.
There are always options if the juice is worth the squeeze.
There are always options if the juice is worth the squeeze.
10-31-2019 | 11:27 AM
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A friend of mine I helped get hired just went through this. Without divulging details about his life, he saw he could just barely make it on salary and eating into savings, but was worried about some unexpected things that may come up. We have the same bank and I suggested a home equity line of credit since they have good terms. Now he has access to a large sum of money if he really needs it, otherwise they just tighten their belts a bit.
There are always options if the juice is worth the squeeze.
There are always options if the juice is worth the squeeze.
10-31-2019 | 11:39 AM
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He told me he made more money his second year here than he did his last year at said regional.
As a commuting First Officer.
On reserve.
Whatever you guys are going to do, do it yesterday, because someone else just snagged your seniority number...
10-31-2019 | 12:31 PM
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Yep. My paycut is in excessive of $100K before my yearly profit sharing check from the current company. It’s going to be tough, but we will get through it.
10-31-2019 | 12:33 PM
#16
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Way to miss the forest for the trees.
You’ll break $100k easy your second year and by year three, seeing you live in base and are willing to be flexible, you can easily be north of $150k.
I was also single income with kids. I ended up financing my first year mostly on credit. And that was on the old contract. I don’t think I made much more than $30k. In South Florida.
Yes it sucked, but long term it made sense.
That was 5 years ago. My income is now well north of $250k, double anything I would have dreamed of at my previous employer...
Your kids will survive For a year on Ramen and Mac n Cheese no problem. It’ll go by fast.
You’ll break $100k easy your second year and by year three, seeing you live in base and are willing to be flexible, you can easily be north of $150k.
I was also single income with kids. I ended up financing my first year mostly on credit. And that was on the old contract. I don’t think I made much more than $30k. In South Florida.
Yes it sucked, but long term it made sense.
That was 5 years ago. My income is now well north of $250k, double anything I would have dreamed of at my previous employer...
Your kids will survive For a year on Ramen and Mac n Cheese no problem. It’ll go by fast.
10-31-2019 | 02:58 PM
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I didn’t break back to parity to what I earned in the military as an airline pilot until second year pay at Spirit (old contract at $72/hr as a 2d year FO) which happened 11 years after I left the military.
10-31-2019 | 03:04 PM
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Not to be one of those guys but I remember making only $38.50 1st year not too long and finding out a way to make it work. Was that money good enough? No but I made a plan to be able to afford that first year pay until the 2nd year boost. Pilots with family will have a hard time crunching the numbers but lets not act like its going back to the days of riding a bike in the rain to the airport because you can't afford a car.
10-31-2019 | 03:06 PM
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Said it before and I’ll say it again, treating new guys (and gals) like cr@p with pay barely half (or less) of what most were making as a regional captain is NOT the way to build pilot group unity. Yeah, yeah, I know that it’s even worse at UPS. So what?
If you want quality future coworkers in these days of declining pilot availability, easing the transition to the big leagues needs to be a priority for every pilot group, not just for management. Even if it costs a little negotiating capital.
If you want quality future coworkers in these days of declining pilot availability, easing the transition to the big leagues needs to be a priority for every pilot group, not just for management. Even if it costs a little negotiating capital.
Just because that’s the way it’s always been, doesn’t mean that’s the way it always has to be. Opportunity for change missed.
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