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Old 12-01-2022 | 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by N6279P;[url=tel:3540475
3540475[/url]]You’ve been in a lot of United airbus aircraft? Clearly not.
I commuted almost exclusively on UA aircraft’s. 95% of them were an Airbus. I’m very family with that airframe over there. Some are better than others, but to say our 319s are more clapped than the UA’s fleet would be incorrect.
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Old 12-01-2022 | 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by ShortBusRider
I didn’t think this airline had the ability to do that. Considering how bad we’re apparently hurting for FOs, you’d think that even with practically both feet out the door, having an FO who’s getting ready to leave still operate the flight gets a butt in the seat.
I think getting someone through OE who’s leaving within a few weeks doesn’t make sense. Especially if OE takes longer, and it seems it does. Not mad at people leaving, and trying to keep their paycheck (if you can call our training pay that), it’s just business.
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Old 12-01-2022 | 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by symbian simian
I think getting someone through OE who’s leaving within a few weeks doesn’t make sense. Especially if OE takes longer, and it seems it does. Not mad at people leaving, and trying to keep their paycheck (if you can call our training pay that), it’s just business.
Never quit until you have to. I wouldn’t until the day of my class. This industry is volatile and you never leave a bird in the hand until you have another bird which is day one in class.
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Old 12-01-2022 | 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by dualinput
Never quit until you have to. I wouldn’t until the day of my class. This industry is volatile and you never leave a bird in the hand until you have another bird which is day one in class.
Exactly. Know a guy who quit early to move and had his GS cancelled the day before class.
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Old 12-01-2022 | 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo
It’s not a lie, it’s true. An FO was let go during IOE by GM for essentially being zoned out during IOE because they were waiting on their legacy class date

Been occasions of FOs not having their workbooks done during IOE because of class dates. One guy was actually brave enough to pull his new legacy onboarding paperwork out in cruise during IOE. Captain check airman called when on the ground, pilot was removed.

So yes, the policy is IF the check airman gets wind that an FO has a class date at a legacy, their IOE will be suspended, as they are trying to get FOs on the line who will actually fly the line.
That’s honestly complete BS. These check airmen should be high fiving these guys. Now if someone is going to sandbag bc of a legacy class date that’s another story. If the new hire is giving 100% to their training a class date at another company shouldn’t be anyones concern other than a high five.

After asking around there is not such policy. Not saying it didn’t happen but there is no policy even implied.
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Old 12-01-2022 | 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by symbian simian
Exactly. Know a guy who quit early to move and had his GS cancelled the day before class.
This exact thing happened to me in 2009.
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Old 12-01-2022 | 12:13 PM
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Old 12-01-2022 | 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by symbian simian
I think getting someone through OE who’s leaving within a few weeks doesn’t make sense. Especially if OE takes longer, and it seems it does. Not mad at people leaving, and trying to keep their paycheck (if you can call our training pay that), it’s just business.
From our perspective yeah it’s dumb. But if the company needs flights to go out and there’s supposedly a shortage of FOs, then it would be even dumber to cancel or delay a flight simply because your feelings are hurt that someone chose another airline. A simple high five and go about your day would suffice.
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Old 12-01-2022 | 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by ShortBusRider
From our perspective yeah it’s dumb. But if the company needs flights to go out and there’s supposedly a shortage of FOs, then it would be even dumber to cancel or delay a flight simply because your feelings are hurt that someone chose another airline. A simple high five and go about your day would suffice.
I don’t think anyone said anything about delaying flights. There’s a line of people waiting for oe at the moment backed up weeks. The company is simply removing them from the trip and replacing them with another fo. Certainly understandable why the company would want to do that. While imo it’s still wrong to remove someone from oe or stop them from consolidating just because there’s wind they are leaving, they are still employed by spirit and until the day they quit have the same rights as any other pilot here.
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Old 12-01-2022 | 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Justabusdriver1
I don’t think anyone said anything about delaying flights. There’s a line of people waiting for oe at the moment backed up weeks. The company is simply removing them from the trip and replacing them with another fo. Certainly understandable why the company would want to do that. While imo it’s still wrong to remove someone from oe or stop them from consolidating just because there’s wind they are leaving, they are still employed by spirit and until the day they quit have the same rights as any other pilot here.
The sequence of events previously described sounded like a flight could get delayed or cancelled. For instance, let’s say during a flight from LAS to SAN turn, the FO says he has a class date with XX airline. Does the check airman stop the training when they get to SAN? If he did then the next flight would be delayed or cancelled. Somewhere down the line something would be affected, unless they waited until the trip was over to pull him off IOE.
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