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Originally Posted by daOldMan
(Post 3368485)
But this will still be an ULCC. If you want a real OCC and real support, go to a legacy airline. If you want a garage sale type airline with folding tables in the OCC, go to an ULCC.
This merger will not make Sprontier a real legacy airline. It is just a larger ULCC. Period. |
Originally Posted by Cyio
(Post 3368661)
Just want to pop in and say that I am so pleased how well everyone is working together so far. If we can keep this up as a pilot group, we will be in for a big win. Together we are much better than seperated. Thankfully the differences in our current contracts are small, so this should go fairly smoothly, at least on our end. Glad to be partnering up with the F9'ers.
I'll say it anyways... For the love of all that is holy to you - do not publically state what you are willing accept. Please keep the topics simply - what you like and don't like about your carrier's contract - so that we can decide what we do and don't like and can communicate that to our respective representatives. I believe if we do that, we can most certainly have an industry leading contract. |
Originally Posted by dracir1
(Post 3368562)
the ultimate focus has GOT to be the contract and getting - what I consider - widebody rates (since we haul more passengers than legacy 75/76). With a me too. Trust me, w/ our combined CASM and increased efficiencies, they can more than afford it.
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Originally Posted by DumboDrop
(Post 3368710)
I would definitely not call that "far superior".
It is better, and as an F9 I agree that we should be able to drop lower and would be interested in retaining zero in the spirit contract. |
Originally Posted by Chimpy
(Post 3368619)
sorry F9 guys but that is bad. Very bad, lol
Pretty sure that’s not correct. 25.m is monthly opentime language which doesn’t exist now. Unfortunately it’s true with the flica fence. Might be part of a recent clarification loa? It’s been a point of contention. Moving along. |
Originally Posted by FLYBOYMATTHEW
(Post 3368759)
So, the least amount you are allowed to fly in a year is 780 hours? Being allowed to drop to zero is FAR superior. Many at NK are hard NOs on any contract that gives up this language.
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I think everyone can agree dropping to 0 is better and I don’t think there’s a single guy at F9 that will argue otherwise unless the new negotiated rules really screw up the reserve grid (red/green as you call it).
What we are saying is our QOL isn’t as bad as may have been led on, which is a good thing, because it is less of a gap to negotiate. Historically drop/swap have been very easy tools to use at F9. |
We haven’t even got to the hard stuff yet. Like reassignment. Lol.
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I live far enough from base that driving for 3-4 day trips is no big deal, but driving out for 1-2 day trips would quickly suck. Are people wanting to fight to preserve the minimum 4 days off after a trip guarantee, both for itself and to prevent Sprontier from going to a day trip model?
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Originally Posted by Aero1900
(Post 3368753)
Not to be a Debbie downer, but you realize both airlines lost money last year, right?
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