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Old 04-12-2022 | 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by BunkerF16
I'll bet you could find this exact argument being made by a senior-ish VA guy during this same timeline along the process. Go look where he ended up in the AK SLI. For people who don't think DOH will play a significant data point for any arbiter is whistling past the graveyard. Yes, I know AK/VA is a different animal. Yes, I also know the DOH discrepancy between the two as well. But precedence has been set that DOH is more important than RS when combining groups, especially when considering the surviving entity.
Put your reading glasses on buddy. I said"JUST looking at DOH" would be wrong. And AS/VA was 70 years vs 8 years.

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Old 04-13-2022 | 01:20 AM
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Originally Posted by ryan4sail
Our meltdowns have to be the worst in the industry. Everyone is having meltdowns nowadays, but ours last 10 days and the company just gives up. No hope of contacting crew scheduling, nobody has a damn clue what the hell is happening. Airplanes are parked in the holding pads in Vegas, crews are making SIT pay sitting in a hotel in Cleveland, and crew scheduling is calling them up wondering why they’re not at the airplane in SJU. It’s an absolute joke. When JetBlue had their massive meltdown in 07 (or whenever it was), the BOD axed David neelman and others in the C-suite. Spirit management just laughs all the way to the bank and doesn’t care about the tens of thousands of stranded passengers. It’s an absolute joke. Lol

You see, B6/NK is a match made in heaven. Until you mentioned Cleveland or Vegas, I couldn’t tell which airline you’re talking about.
Old 04-13-2022 | 04:26 AM
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Originally Posted by FriendlyPilot
Almost no matter how they did the SLI, you’d be placed ahead of a 9 year pilot at another airline who was only at 47%. Especially since the fleets are relatively the same. It seems like you guys will do well in an SLI.
That’s not the point really. The spirit pilot most likely wouldn’t maintain that ~20%. Sure maybe not slide to 47% but definitely going to take a hit. Also with few retirements at the combined airline and growth being slower it’s not unreasonable to say that spirit pilot will take years to get back to the same seniority percentage they came into the merger with. They may never make it back depending on their age.
Old 04-13-2022 | 04:44 AM
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Originally Posted by symbian simian
Put your reading glasses on buddy. I said"JUST looking at DOH" would be wrong. And AS/VA was 70 years vs 8 years.
FaIr enough. If I mis read it, my apologies. I agree with you. Pure DOH would be wrong and would never happen. As would pure RS. My only point on all of this is that it will be a blend somewhere in the middle of the two. 50/50 +/- 10% would be my guess
Old 04-13-2022 | 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by BunkerF16
FaIr enough. If I mis read it, my apologies. I agree with you. Pure DOH would be wrong and would never happen. As would pure RS. My only point on all of this is that it will be a blend somewhere in the middle of the two. 50/50 +/- 10% would be my guess
With 60/40 award, top 1/3 of VX list took a 22% RS hit. Middle 1/3 was flat and bottom 1/3 was basically DOH. YMMV.

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Old 04-13-2022 | 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by ryan4sail
Our meltdowns have to be the worst in the industry. Everyone is having meltdowns nowadays, but ours last 10 days and the company just gives up. No hope of contacting crew scheduling, nobody has a damn clue what the hell is happening. Airplanes are parked in the holding pads in Vegas, crews are making SIT pay sitting in a hotel in Cleveland, and crew scheduling is calling them up wondering why they’re not at the airplane in SJU. It’s an absolute joke. When JetBlue had their massive meltdown in 07 (or whenever it was), the BOD axed David neelman and others in the C-suite. Spirit management just laughs all the way to the bank and doesn’t care about the tens of thousands of stranded passengers. It’s an absolute joke. Lol
Ha. If the deal happens with B6, don't expect better either. Everything you said here sounds like normal ops for us at B6 for the last few months.

Land O Lakes please meet Country Crock, now let's meltdown together like the butters we are.
Old 04-13-2022 | 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by BunkerF16
FaIr enough. If I mis read it, my apologies. I agree with you. Pure DOH would be wrong and would never happen. As would pure RS. My only point on all of this is that it will be a blend somewhere in the middle of the two. 50/50 +/- 10% would be my guess
Yeah, no prob. Getting cranky about all the JB people complaining about RS with all those young NK pilots. I am 20% at NK, have 10 more years to go, and going back to 50% RS doesn't really sound fair to me.
Old 04-14-2022 | 07:42 AM
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Rumor I heard is if if the B6 buyout goes through the Spirit planes will be Mint in the front and fight club in the back with cage matches and the FAs in bikinis carrying round count signs.

Any truth to this?
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Originally Posted by Seneca Pilot
Rumor I heard is if if the B6 buyout goes through the Spirit planes will be Mint in the front and fight club in the back with cage matches and the FAs in bikinis carrying round count signs.

Any truth to this?
I love it! Let’s bring back the mullet!
Old 04-14-2022 | 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Seneca Pilot
Rumor I heard is if if the B6 buyout goes through the Spirit planes will be Mint in the front and fight club in the back with cage matches and the FAs in bikinis carrying round count signs.

Any truth to this?
As the country joins the rest of the world on separating the haves from the have nots more and more I assume this is actually a good strategy. Of course the haves in mint won’t want the have nots walking past them so they will have to board from the back
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