Jet blue wants us now
04-28-2022, 02:35 PM
#451
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Originally Posted by Trylabyte
Any thought that after the close of market today we'll all be b6. That's my prediction. Kinda makes sense in a way. I dunno I'm bored
What was discussed on the town hall?
04-28-2022, 02:35 PM
#452
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Originally Posted by Trylabyte
Any thought that after the close of market today we'll all be b6. That's my prediction. Kinda makes sense in a way. I dunno I'm bored
04-28-2022, 02:51 PM
#453
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Originally Posted by DrSours
A lot of people talk about coming to Spirit because it’s a recession proof airline.
I have a question then. Did Spirit not furlough pilots during the 2008 recession?
I have a question then. Did Spirit not furlough pilots during the 2008 recession?
04-28-2022, 05:30 PM
#454
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Originally Posted by BananaHammock
A lot of these problems are of your own doing. Union will not agree to first-year pay raises from the company without raising all wages (fair enough... to a degree...) or fear that raising only first year rates will hamper negotiations later on(possibly remotely true but probably not...and with a joint contract due with Green or Blue it doesn't really...).
So bottom line you reap what you sow. **** on first-year guys while reaping your own - now you get endless reserve and forever upgrade times and lack of growth.
I know this opinion will be as popular as 40grit toilet paper but oh well, quit your whining if you're not going to do something about it.
So bottom line you reap what you sow. **** on first-year guys while reaping your own - now you get endless reserve and forever upgrade times and lack of growth.
I know this opinion will be as popular as 40grit toilet paper but oh well, quit your whining if you're not going to do something about it.
Nothing stopping the company from coming and negotiating an entire new contract early even if we will be negotiating a JCBA in the next year. We all know every management loves to come for concessions mid cycle when they need them. Somehow they never come for a new contract with handsome improvements mid cycle when the need it.
04-28-2022, 06:58 PM
#455
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Just got out of Prison. I miss anything good in the last 30 days?
04-28-2022, 07:14 PM
#456
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Originally Posted by BananaHammock
A lot of these problems are of your own doing. Union will not agree to first-year pay raises from the company without raising all wages (fair enough... to a degree...) or fear that raising only first year rates will hamper negotiations later on(possibly remotely true but probably not...and with a joint contract due with Green or Blue it doesn't really...).
So bottom line you reap what you sow. **** on first-year guys while reaping your own - now you get endless reserve and forever upgrade times and lack of growth.
I know this opinion will be as popular as 40grit toilet paper but oh well, quit your whining if you're not going to do something about it.
So bottom line you reap what you sow. **** on first-year guys while reaping your own - now you get endless reserve and forever upgrade times and lack of growth.
I know this opinion will be as popular as 40grit toilet paper but oh well, quit your whining if you're not going to do something about it.
04-29-2022, 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by FLYBOYMATTHEW
This is not a labor problem, this is a management problem. You want raises for year 1 guys not on property yet, then raises across the board for everyone with skin in the game.
04-29-2022, 10:21 AM
#458
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Originally Posted by BananaHammock
Keep telling yourself that while you endure endless upgrade time...
04-29-2022, 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
Too many options for potential new hires that are industry standard for them to accept an offer that isn’t. Even if you WANT NK, right now you ought to be applying to F9 or B6 - whichever one you think will end up owning it.
You can say managements problem all you want but when first year wages are offered and you say no unless everyone gets a raise then you have to deal what you sow.
Something something forest something something trees.
I'm very pro union for the record
04-29-2022, 01:03 PM
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How do people even answer the standard “why Spirit?” Question
“I like the business model, but if the Frontier deal goes through, I’ll be happy to continue as an ULCC. BUT if it’s JBLU, I’m excited to be a LCC pilot. On top of that I love that upgrade stagnation and Unknown displacement bid and whether ATL will open or not is still a guess. I can’t want to work at Spirit, or whatever the name will be”
“I like the business model, but if the Frontier deal goes through, I’ll be happy to continue as an ULCC. BUT if it’s JBLU, I’m excited to be a LCC pilot. On top of that I love that upgrade stagnation and Unknown displacement bid and whether ATL will open or not is still a guess. I can’t want to work at Spirit, or whatever the name will be”
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