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Old 04-24-2022 | 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Bluedriver
Matters to me. If it doesn't matter to you then don't bother fighting for what's in your best interest. Simple.
it’s not in your control, anyways. In fact, most of life actually isn’t, either.
Old 04-24-2022 | 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by ReadOnly7
it’s not in your control, anyways. In fact, most of life actually isn’t, either.
You're not entirely wrong.
Old 04-24-2022 | 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by dualinput
Yea there is a big difference unless you like doing 4 day trips then yeah 20% is probably fine.
This. Or if you want to be LAX or MCO based instead of JFK (based on B6 current base seniority). Or if we ended up getting a few widebodies and you wanted to fly them.

Disclaimer: I have no idea where I’d end up on the list because I haven’t cared to look. IF it happens, there will be plenty of time to look at the possibilities and let my rep know how I feel. That’s about all I can do to help myself anyway.
Old 04-27-2022 | 06:17 PM
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Old 04-28-2022 | 06:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Airwillystyle
Great, for customers. This is a forum for pilots. Maybe you could address why the same company is having to slow it's growth rate because it can't retain enough pilots? Will a slower growth rate make a pilots career better or worse?
Old 04-28-2022 | 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Bluedriver
Great, for customers. This is a forum for pilots. Maybe you could address why the same company is having to slow it's growth rate because it can't retain enough pilots? Will a slower growth rate make a pilots career better or worse?
Lack of retention is absolutely destroying the company right now and in response leadership has buried their heads in the sand. Upgrade times have sky rocketed, IROPS are worse and unrecoverable, flying has been cut back, reserve times are endless and you are used every day, and planes will be forced to be parked as new ones come in. The "growth" plans are all but forgotten. Spirit is still a lot better than a regional, but expect SWA like upgrade times and you will be on reserve for at least a year, maybe more.
Old 04-28-2022 | 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by IamEssential
Lack of retention is absolutely destroying the company right now and

*in response leadership has buried their heads in the sand.*

Upgrade times have sky rocketed, IROPS are worse and unrecoverable, flying has been cut back, reserve times are endless and you are used every day, and planes will be forced to be parked as new ones come in. The "growth" plans are all but forgotten. Spirit is still a lot better than a regional, but expect SWA like upgrade times and you will be on reserve for at least a year, maybe more.
A lot of these problems are of your own doing. Union will not agree to first-year pay raises from the company without raising all wages (fair enough... to a degree...) or fear that raising only first year rates will hamper negotiations later on(possibly remotely true but probably not...and with a joint contract due with Green or Blue it doesn't really...).

So bottom line you reap what you sow. **** on first-year guys while reaping your own - now you get endless reserve and forever upgrade times and lack of growth.

I know this opinion will be as popular as 40grit toilet paper but oh well, quit your whining if you're not going to do something about it.
Old 04-28-2022 | 01:42 PM
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A lot of people talk about coming to Spirit because it’s a recession proof airline.

I have a question then. Did Spirit not furlough pilots during the 2008 recession?
Old 04-28-2022 | 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by DrSours
A lot of people talk about coming to Spirit because it’s a recession proof airline.

I have a question then. Did Spirit not furlough pilots during the 2008 recession?
I know what you're going for here--and it's honorable--but has holes in it. The airline sent aircraft (8?) back to the lessor without penalty because they wanted to redistribute their assets in case we went out of business. This was in response to $140+/barrel of oil. Once oil plummeted, the airline went in search of airplanes but couldn't find any. Plus, the financial system had pretty much locked up money, so there was very little in the way of financing for an airline with 25 airplanes.
Old 04-28-2022 | 02:26 PM
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Any thought that after the close of market today we'll all be b6. That's my prediction. Kinda makes sense in a way. I dunno I'm bored
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