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Old 07-30-2022, 02:11 PM
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I would too, and expect the SPA MEC to fight as hard as possible. Maybe our MEC will seek to fence off our heavy narrowbody flying!

I wish we could just skip ahead to the arbitrator ruling now.
😂, same. I am 20% and not looking forward to moving down, but I know you didn't pick this either.
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Old 07-30-2022, 02:20 PM
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Who's messing around? I hope there are no fences but you can be territorial with bases just as you can with categories of aircraft. I sincerely hope there are no fences and people's position are protected with a no bump/flush policy. Would be the best outcome.
Yeah I know there can be but I'm just saying what it's usually used for. I'm not expecting there will be any fences. Like what the hell would we (B6) or NK would need to fence off?
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Old 07-30-2022, 02:28 PM
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Yeah I know there can be but I'm just saying what it's usually used for. I'm not expecting there will be any fences. Like what the hell would we (B6) or NK would need to fence off?
Some may be protective of their bases maybe? I hope you're right and yes, I think normally you get fences due to WBs and special flying maybe? The two companies are very similar that I'd hope we could deal without fences. Protect current seats and bases then let the natural flow of system and supplemental bids do what they need to do to even things out.
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Old 07-30-2022, 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by BunkerF16 View Post
Who's messing around? I hope there are no fences but you can be territorial with bases just as you can with categories of aircraft. I sincerely hope there are no fences and people's position are protected with a no bump/flush policy. Would be the best outcome.
"No bump-no flush" is pretty standard and I would be absolutely shocked if it wasn't included in the final ruling

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😂, same. I am 20% and not looking forward to moving down, but I know you didn't pick this either.
I was hired Spring of 2011 and am 40% 😭 We'll probably be slotted next to each other on the final list 🍻
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Old 07-30-2022, 05:22 PM
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I was hired Spring of 2011 and am 40% 😭 We'll probably be slotted next to each other on the final list 🍻
Early 2013. Whoever ends up higher on the list pays for the beers!
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Old 07-30-2022, 06:11 PM
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100% agree. And I'm not mad at any NK who tries to make an argument that helps their position. It's not personal, it's business. I may disagree with their point of view but I'd probably have the same one if I was them. Bottom line is there's a handful of pilots on both sides with that committee that have any influence. Ultimately it will be determined by an arbiter no doubt. My hope is we can move on from that and galvanize to come together and get a top shelf JCBA because that's where we'll all make our $ and QOL.

Looking forward to the Spirit bubbas coming on board. Oh, and no fences. Daddy needs to drive to work in DTW! 😂
glad to have you brother! I’m biased but it’s an awesome base… provided your junior to me 😁
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Old 07-30-2022, 06:13 PM
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What do you expect? If we bring up relative seniority over DOH you get mad. Alpa arbitration does not take future orders/reductions, relative seniority, or pay rates into account (based on AA/VA merger). Merger is now on, and you do have 60 SNB on property. Face it, you and I both just want what is best for #1. Until we are merged I support my MEC in fighting for me, and I expect the same of you. As far as the JCBA goes, we are the same group fighting management.
The first 6 (or so) of those 60 are already parked and the rest are being parked over the next two years. Those aircraft are dead men walking and won't even be considered in an SLI.
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Old 07-30-2022, 06:17 PM
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The first 6 (or so) of those 60 are already parked and the rest are being parked over the next two years. Those aircraft are dead men walking and won't even be considered in an SLI.
how many total 220s on order?
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The first 6 (or so) of those 60 are already parked and the rest are being parked over the next two years. Those aircraft are dead men walking and won't even be considered in an SLI.
future fleet plans
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glad to have you brother! I’m biased but it’s an awesome base… provided your junior to me 😁
Ha! Thanks. I see that base is really senior so that's probably the case!

And we have 100 220s on order so far.
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