I left last month, after much deliberation and talking to people I trust on both sides of my dilemma came to a conclusion. Happy with the choice as of now, as the only thing that I have removed from my stress level was the cloud of uncertainty with Spirits future. I replaced that cloud with another one of commuting, bottom of seniority and qol hit. Not trying to chug the new coolaid, but have been very pleasantly surprised so far vs initial at NK. I have many friends still at Spirit, some still considering leaving, some trying to leave and some staying put. I wish nothing but the best for all of them in their own situations and hope they get to choose what works best for each on of them. Spirit could become the most profitable airline, with the best contract etc and I would be ecstatic and so happy for my buddies and never have any ill will for them. Pilots that get off on hoping for someone’s demise are true sh*tbags. For the others that think they know each unique situation on what others should do, advice/input is different than insulting one’s decision. Well said 69

 

It’s both sides. For every pilot who is leaving and telling people “you need to leave”, there are pilots telling those who are leaving “what!? Why are you leaving and giving up all that seniority?!”

I left and had plenty of coworkers tell
me all about the “seniority” I’m giving up, how I won’t “get the same trips” any longer, and how “the work rules are so bad at other airlines”. Trust me, it gets just as old as someone being told they are “stupid” if they don’t leave.

And of course there are plenty who WANT to leave, can’t for various reasons, and just love to hate on those who are/have.

 

I think people want validation for whatever choice they make even if and to some especially if that means people who made the opposite decision suffer harm. That would further validate their decision.

human nature can be ****ed up

 

I nearly had to tell an FO with a legacy class date to **** when he wouldn't stop harping on me to follow in his footsteps.

I'm always happy to hear about people moving on when they share that information, but some feel the need to take it a step further and get all up in everyone's cherrios about why they're choosing to stick around.

NONE OF YOUR DAMN BUSINESS

 

LOL No way but that was very nice of you.

 

The mere fact that one needs to justify either decision on APC or in the cockpit speaks volumes. Maybe reading some self help books or self worth books might come in handy as well.

 

This is human nature in most professions as well. When in the military, whenever talking to your boss (who is in for at least 20yrs career or they wouldn't be boss), the correct answer is your staying in the military till your Admiral or General. Any answer of "I'm considering getting out and doing something else" immediately marks you as rejecting THEIR selected career path.

 

Probably because F9 needs NK to ensure its survival or at least have some long term security. Bigger seems to be better in this industry. Ironically if there is a merger there would be less competition but at this point there’s no way a merger won’t be approved

 

So true.

I remember I made a comment about getting out one time in front of my DO, he was like, "You can't say that in front of me!" Ooops.

 

Very true and the validation will come in 10, 20 or 30 years when one retires. Good times and bad, this career is a crapshoot and there are no guarantees.