Spirit Now Sure As It Emerges From Bankruptcy
08-27-2025 | 08:59 PM
#1461
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From: DOWNGRADE COMPLETE: Thanks Gary. Thanks SWAPA.
HINT: Don’t flatter yourself. It’s not that much. Feel free to respect yourself and your profession a little more.
08-28-2025 | 02:49 AM
#1462
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This is one of the most inaccurate and ignorant comments I’ve seen on here in quite a while. I suggest you get educated on how much the “front office’s” combined pay effects the profit and cost per flight.
HINT: Don’t flatter yourself. It’s not that much. Feel free to respect yourself and your profession a little more.
HINT: Don’t flatter yourself. It’s not that much. Feel free to respect yourself and your profession a little more.
Last edited by LNAVVNAVPATH; 08-28-2025 at 03:14 AM.
08-28-2025 | 03:19 AM
#1463
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Joined: Jul 2025
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63 A320 CEOs
29 A321 CEOs
91 A320 CEOs
32 A321 CEOs
48 NEO Aircraft Parked in Phoenix
65 by end of next year
75 peak in 2027
800+ day turn around with Pratt
148 Aircrat Leased
49 Owned, (All Incumbered)
18 Recent Failed Leasebacks
26 Aircarft Ready for Sale as June 30
08-28-2025 | 03:37 AM
#1465
Bent over by buybacks
Joined: Feb 2017
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we (airline pilots) are blue collar. We are skilled labor. We work for hourly wages. Most of us are union members. We collectively bargain. We obtain collectively bargained contracts through unity. We picket and carry signs. We support other unions. We are subjected to the RLA. We’re proud of all the above.
if you want to be considered white collar or management, you’re part of the problem.
08-28-2025 | 04:39 AM
#1466
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this is a terrible take.
we (airline pilots) are blue collar. We are skilled labor. We work for hourly wages. Most of us are union members. We collectively bargain. We obtain collectively bargained contracts through unity. We picket and carry signs. We support other unions. We are subjected to the RLA. We’re proud of all the above.
if you want to be considered white collar or management, you’re part of the problem.
we (airline pilots) are blue collar. We are skilled labor. We work for hourly wages. Most of us are union members. We collectively bargain. We obtain collectively bargained contracts through unity. We picket and carry signs. We support other unions. We are subjected to the RLA. We’re proud of all the above.
if you want to be considered white collar or management, you’re part of the problem.
08-28-2025 | 05:08 AM
#1467
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Joined: Aug 2020
Posts: 2,652
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215 Total Aircraft
63 A320 CEOs
29 A321 CEOs
91 A320 CEOs
32 A321 CEOs
48 NEO Aircraft Parked in Phoenix
65 by end of next year
75 peak in 2027
800+ day turn around with Pratt
148 Aircrat Leased
49 Owned, (All Incumbered)
18 Recent Failed Leasebacks
26 Aircarft Ready for Sale as June 30
63 A320 CEOs
29 A321 CEOs
91 A320 CEOs
32 A321 CEOs
48 NEO Aircraft Parked in Phoenix
65 by end of next year
75 peak in 2027
800+ day turn around with Pratt
148 Aircrat Leased
49 Owned, (All Incumbered)
18 Recent Failed Leasebacks
26 Aircarft Ready for Sale as June 30
08-28-2025 | 05:32 AM
#1469
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Joined: Jul 2025
Posts: 110
Likes: 56
215 Total Aircraft
63 A320 CEOs
29 A321 CEOs
91 A320 NEOs
32 A321 NEOs
48 NEO Aircraft Parked in Phoenix
65 by end of next year
75 peak in 2027
800+ day turn around with Pratt
148 Aircrat Leased
49 Owned, (All Incumbered)
18 Recent Failed Leasebacks
26 Aircarft Ready for Sale as June 30
63 A320 CEOs
29 A321 CEOs
91 A320 NEOs
32 A321 NEOs
48 NEO Aircraft Parked in Phoenix
65 by end of next year
75 peak in 2027
800+ day turn around with Pratt
148 Aircrat Leased
49 Owned, (All Incumbered)
18 Recent Failed Leasebacks
26 Aircarft Ready for Sale as June 30
08-28-2025 | 05:35 AM
#1470
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Joined: Jul 2025
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Of the total number of aircraft, how many are NEO’s without engine issues? No domestic airline will likely be interested in any of the CEO aircraft, only those NEO’s without engine issues. I can’t see legacies interested in any of them since the conversion time/cost would be so great, so what does that leave? Frontier could be interested in unaffected NEO’s, but I don’t see them willing to buy the total just to get a few choice pieces. In a market that is currently oversupplied, what is to gain from any company buying the whole operation and dealing with a merger? What am I missing here?
Correct, no airlines in the US are interested in the CEOs, hence our last 4 or 5 sold went to Vietnam.
The 50 good NEOs we do have are either leased or heavily leveraged and fully encumbered.
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